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Message: <blockquote data-quote="bwgwl" data-source="post: 146416" data-attributes="member: 3876">Bloodstone:i definitely understand and agree with your reasoning behind a Con penalty and possible defects with crossbreeding races.however, as this world is heavy on the fantasy, i don't mind just saying "It's magic!" and leaving it at that. while this attitude may not be appropriate for all campaign worlds, it makes sense in this context.one thing i'd like to specifically address is that you mention perhaps giving them a Charisma penalty for being "unsettling." that's not really appropriate for this world, for two reasons (that i believe i alluded to in previous posts). one - in many human societies, goblinoids and hobgoblins are rather common and live side-by-side with their human neighbors. most people won't see anything odd about a hobgoblin. it's sort of like no one would see anything odd about someone who was half-caucasian and half-asian in San Francisco, or someone who is hispanic (half-spanish, half-native american) in mexico. (and like mexico, there are parts of this world where hobgoblins are the majority of the population due to such extensive crossbreeding.)secondly, in mainly goblinoid societies, hobgoblins are almost always the leaders. as the "leader" race, i didn't feel comfortable giving them a penalty to Charisma, as that is the most salient attribute of leaders.thanks for the input!</blockquote>