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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 4623055" data-attributes="member: 48965">Actually I think the reason many people "read" it that way is because the example on pg. 42 does it that way and the instructions under "Cast the Action as a Check" where using easy(10), moderate(15) and hard(20) + 1/2 level... is just a roundabout and more exact way of using the table in the "changing DC's by level" assumption.  I haven't been able to find an example where the table is ever used in a different way.  Personally I have a 2 main problems with page 42...  1. There are set DC's independent of level in the 4e PHB and parts of the DMG... yet pg. 42 which creates dynamic difficulties that scale with level is also used, this creates a disparity in that you get naturally better in some things while doing off the cuff actions actually gets harder as you progress in relation to those specific things that are set.  2. Page 42 tells you how to create a stunt but gives no examples or guidelines on how to balance anything outside of damage.  So how does it affect the game when you go by these ad-hoc DC's but your players are looking to do more than damage?  How does that ipact the balance of the game?Malraux, I'm curious do you ever use the DC's in the PHB or do you only use page 42?  If you use both how do you reconcile the fact that a PC of 10th level only needs to roll a 20 or higher to identify the name, type, keywords & powers of a monster he's never seen before but has to roll a 21 or higher to find his way from being lost...regardless of the fact that 5 levels previous he still had to roll a 20 to identify the monster but only had to roll a 17 in order to avoid getting lost.  One has gotten easier and the other harder... both objectively and in relation to each other.  Honestly this causes a bizarro world reaction in me when I look at it.  And I'm wondering how others reconcile this weirdness.</blockquote>

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