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<blockquote data-quote="Choranzanus" data-source="post: 3798683" data-attributes="member: 43291"><p>I was talking about general perception that chain was longer then the haft. On the examples I have seen that were digged from the ground (or reconstructed from such finds), there was a marked difference from what is today sold at various sites as "realistic medieval weapons" and so on; the haft was much longer and the chain much shorter. When I saw that I thought that such weapons make a lot more sense.</p><p></p><p>And what kind of axe? Battle axe or standart two handed axe?</p><p></p><p></p><p>I do not know about such things, but I seriously doubt that medieval flails would be so different in Bohemia than for example England. Are you sure you are not confusing one handed weapons with two handed converted grain flails (such as those used by Hussites; grain flails have only one chain link and they might have actual spikes on the head). I was talking at all times about one handed flails.</p><p></p><p>1.5 feet sure is a lot. One foot is about maximum for effective weapon-just handle them and you will see.</p><p></p><p>If you know something about how the weapon was really used, share it, I don't know anything about that, but I thing whirling the head is quite sufficient to deliver devastating blow (even with short chain). Whirling is also much faster than wild swings with the weapon as a whole.</p><p></p><p>It is semantics...but pyramids are not terribly historical either, or were not common.</p><p></p><p>I have never seen (or don't remember seeing) any examples of this kind, and I have serious doubt about multiple heads improving the weapon. And the wisdom is if it is not effective it is probably not real weapon.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Choranzanus, post: 3798683, member: 43291"] I was talking about general perception that chain was longer then the haft. On the examples I have seen that were digged from the ground (or reconstructed from such finds), there was a marked difference from what is today sold at various sites as "realistic medieval weapons" and so on; the haft was much longer and the chain much shorter. When I saw that I thought that such weapons make a lot more sense. And what kind of axe? Battle axe or standart two handed axe? I do not know about such things, but I seriously doubt that medieval flails would be so different in Bohemia than for example England. Are you sure you are not confusing one handed weapons with two handed converted grain flails (such as those used by Hussites; grain flails have only one chain link and they might have actual spikes on the head). I was talking at all times about one handed flails. 1.5 feet sure is a lot. One foot is about maximum for effective weapon-just handle them and you will see. If you know something about how the weapon was really used, share it, I don't know anything about that, but I thing whirling the head is quite sufficient to deliver devastating blow (even with short chain). Whirling is also much faster than wild swings with the weapon as a whole. It is semantics...but pyramids are not terribly historical either, or were not common. I have never seen (or don't remember seeing) any examples of this kind, and I have serious doubt about multiple heads improving the weapon. And the wisdom is if it is not effective it is probably not real weapon. [/QUOTE]
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