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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nine Hands" data-source="post: 1374336" data-attributes="member: 4919">Hey everyone,I have an interesting situation in my current Epic game (which takes place in the Forgotten Realms).  One of the character's (a member of the Order of the Forgotten Flower, we will call him Dummy from now on), decided to attempt to steal a sword from the treasure trove of a black dragon (members of the party have had dealings with this dragon in the past and the dragon ALWAYS comes out ahead in the deal, but they get what they need at the time).  The sword is the Coronal's blade for Comranthyr.  Since the entire group is elves (mainly), this item is pretty important to them and thier attempt to reclaim the forests of Cormanthyr.  It was mentioned that diplomacy (which the bard/rogue/keeper of songs is really good at), might work since they have had dealings with the dragon before.  The attempt to steal the sword failed miserably, with the character being captured (a hit with the clinging breath weapon and then a round or two of non-lethal damage and blam, unconscious elf).  The dragon, being smart as all hell, wants to learn as much from this person as possible, so he will be tortured for information.  That is where the problem lies.  Since he is a member of the Order of the Forgotten Flower, his job is to collect magical artifacts and keep them out of the hands of people who can't handle them.  He has also traveled with the group for quite a while and knows all of thier weaknesses.Several other caveats, the bard/rogue/keeper of songs is also in possession of a magical prison, holding the essence of a long trapped god of entropy.  This is a canon item from the Realms called the Staff of the Dragonking, the Eye of Woe, or the Eye of Doom.  This item in and of itself is VERY dangerous.  If the god were to escape, there would be the potential for the end of the world and stuff.The group is also attempting to ambush the avatar of Lolth in her own ceremony in Menzoberranzen.  This is a ballsy maneuver but if it is planned right, they have a decent chance.  There is a guy in the party (the lover of the bard/rogue/keeper of songs) who is in possession of a rather powerful moonblade.  IMC, moonblades are tied directly to the wielder and are needed in close proximity to avoid dying (can't heal, either magically or naturally and eventually takes Con damage each day until dead).  Also without the blade, the dude is pretty useless (as it grants him feats, which he has chained off of, and would then not meet the prerequisites for them if the sword is not in his possession).The party is also planning to kill the avatar of Lolth in an attempt to reclaim the Elven Court.  They have enlisted the help of Shevaresh (its a looog story, suffice it to say the a bunch of unrelated, unplanned events came together in a VERY interesting way).  So, dummy (the Order of the Forgotten Flower guy) is going to end up spilling his guts and some time later, he will be deposited on the front lawn of one of the other player's farm, dead and peeled like an onion.  Him being missing for a while is not an issue, since they are finishing off a year of down time (which is why one of the character's bought a farm (no pun intended)).The next thing is what does the dragon do?  The last thing he wants is to even think about taking the staff.  That is stupid as it is VERY dangerous to those who are not of a specific bloodline.  So that idea is out.  Thank god, as it would really screw up the campaign a little.  Using the weaknesses of the group against them, that is the dragon's style.  He may consider kidnapping one and holding him ransom, which will definately cause them problems.  The attempt on the avatar of Lolth.  That is another thing that is coming up which he may use to his advantage.  His choices are many, extort the PCs, tell Lolth for a reward, tell the Drow at the ceremony for a reward.My question is, can anyone think of anything else to hose these guys?  I enjoy being a rat bastard, but outright killing is not my style.  I prefer emotional torture over killing any day <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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