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<blockquote data-quote="zyzzyr" data-source="post: 675778" data-attributes="member: 1867">Hello,Thanks for the continued discussion.Jolly Giant - Your character does sound interesting.&nbsp; I did think of going that way, but I don't want this character to go the way of a fighter at all - I do not want him to be combat oriented at all.&nbsp; I can definitely see how that adds to your character though - 2d10 hp, +2 or 3 to fort saves, and 2 combat oriented feats!&nbsp; It definitely balances out the combat weaknesses of the bard class.I'm not really keen on having the character know of sneak attack either - I really want him to be a support character.Celebrim: you're right that heavy armor proficiency is too easy to get back, but the point of this character, as Canis astutely points out, is that he wouldn't ever take a class that grants him this benefit anyhow.&nbsp; He shies away from combat.&nbsp; Canis - you're right, I was more thinking along the lines of Loremaster ability, really (themewise), than Bardic knowledge.&nbsp; He prefers the obscure lore that most people ignore than the overriding geopolitical factors.And The Cleric/rogue does sound good, but that implies a relationship with a larger body (the church), when I wanted this guy to be more independent.I am worried about going rogue/div though, because my spells take a major hit going that road - and I don't care to have evasion, sneak attack, or uncanny dodge.&nbsp; These things don't interest him.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="zyzzyr, post: 675778, member: 1867"] Hello, Thanks for the continued discussion. Jolly Giant - Your character does sound interesting. I did think of going that way, but I don't want this character to go the way of a fighter at all - I do not want him to be combat oriented at all. I can definitely see how that adds to your character though - 2d10 hp, +2 or 3 to fort saves, and 2 combat oriented feats! It definitely balances out the combat weaknesses of the bard class. I'm not really keen on having the character know of sneak attack either - I really want him to be a support character. Celebrim: you're right that heavy armor proficiency is too easy to get back, but the point of this character, as Canis astutely points out, is that he wouldn't ever take a class that grants him this benefit anyhow. He shies away from combat. Canis - you're right, I was more thinking along the lines of Loremaster ability, really (themewise), than Bardic knowledge. He prefers the obscure lore that most people ignore than the overriding geopolitical factors. And The Cleric/rogue does sound good, but that implies a relationship with a larger body (the church), when I wanted this guy to be more independent. I am worried about going rogue/div though, because my spells take a major hit going that road - and I don't care to have evasion, sneak attack, or uncanny dodge. These things don't interest him. [/QUOTE]

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