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<blockquote data-quote="Cap'n Kobold" data-source="post: 6822661" data-attributes="member: 6802951"><p>The entire point of an Oathbreaker is that you no longer feel bound by your Oath. In fact you revel in the fact that you broke it. You can quite easily be an evil-aligned Paladin of the Oath of Vengeance, but becoming an Oathbreaker specifically means you no longer care about that Vengeance. You didn't just break your Oath but try to reinstate it; you deliberately threw it, and all it stands for, away.</p><p></p><p>If your Oath of vengeance was about slaying evil humans, then as an oathbreaker you're more likely to try to side with them against the innocent or good. You might kill one or two just because you like killing and you'd get into more trouble than its worth to go on a more general murder spree. </p><p></p><p>Why would the cleric not being evil matter as to whether you kill him or not? You're an Oathbreaker; you no longer care about protecting the innocent or killing evil. He is completely correct that he cannot trust you: if you were happy to renounce something as powerful as the Oath of a Paladin, there is nothing you can swear to that will mean a damn to you any longer.</p><p></p><p>The only way to get him to trust you would be to convince him that you're no longer an oathbreaker. You'll need someone else to convince him though: he knows that nothing you say is trustworthy. Maybe get one of those evil guys you're now making friends with to pose as a character witness?</p><p></p><p>The problem being that in order to persuade him you're not an evil person, you're going to have to stop doing evil stuff. As the antagonist, its your responsibility to come up with reasons why you don't just kill him, but as your current character, you're going to have to think very hard how to do that.</p><p></p><p>I have to ask though: what on earth possessed your DM to allow an Oathbreaker and a Lawful Good character in the same party? Oathbreakers are generally NPC only classes for a reason.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cap'n Kobold, post: 6822661, member: 6802951"] The entire point of an Oathbreaker is that you no longer feel bound by your Oath. In fact you revel in the fact that you broke it. You can quite easily be an evil-aligned Paladin of the Oath of Vengeance, but becoming an Oathbreaker specifically means you no longer care about that Vengeance. You didn't just break your Oath but try to reinstate it; you deliberately threw it, and all it stands for, away. If your Oath of vengeance was about slaying evil humans, then as an oathbreaker you're more likely to try to side with them against the innocent or good. You might kill one or two just because you like killing and you'd get into more trouble than its worth to go on a more general murder spree. Why would the cleric not being evil matter as to whether you kill him or not? You're an Oathbreaker; you no longer care about protecting the innocent or killing evil. He is completely correct that he cannot trust you: if you were happy to renounce something as powerful as the Oath of a Paladin, there is nothing you can swear to that will mean a damn to you any longer. The only way to get him to trust you would be to convince him that you're no longer an oathbreaker. You'll need someone else to convince him though: he knows that nothing you say is trustworthy. Maybe get one of those evil guys you're now making friends with to pose as a character witness? The problem being that in order to persuade him you're not an evil person, you're going to have to stop doing evil stuff. As the antagonist, its your responsibility to come up with reasons why you don't just kill him, but as your current character, you're going to have to think very hard how to do that. I have to ask though: what on earth possessed your DM to allow an Oathbreaker and a Lawful Good character in the same party? Oathbreakers are generally NPC only classes for a reason. [/QUOTE]
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