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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Stormonu" data-source="post: 5711529" data-attributes="member: 52734">Yeah, I think I'd reach over the table and throttle the DM if I was subjected to that trap - and had not been given some sort of clue/forewarning that the only way to win was to cheat.  Good for a show/movie, horrible to be subjected to it if you aren't aware cheating is allowed.Another chess puzzle is the one with 5 queens; you must position them on the board so they can't capture each other.  Another one involves several knights (4, I think) on an unusually shaped board (like a cross, I believe); you have to swap the positions of all the knights in so many moves (like 8).One really strange puzzle I've seen is the "checkers vs. chess" game; one side plays with the pieces/movement of a set of checkers, the other plays with the pieces/rules of chess.  Of course, the chess side has the advantage.</blockquote>