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<blockquote data-quote="argo" data-source="post: 1681047" data-attributes="member: 5752"><p>No way you are going to get a flying race with LA 0. Yes, yes I know other characters can cast fly or buy a magic item. Doesn't matter. This is always-on flying that uses neither daily powers nor cash resources and is not vulneurable to dispel magic etc.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You are right abut Str and, to a lesser extent, Con (though -4 is prety steep) but you are wrong about Int. As near as we can tell inteligence is a function of the structures of the brain (lizard brain vs mamal brain) as well as the <em>ratio</em> of brain size to body mass. You are correct about needing to use a % of your brain to control your body but if your brain is proportionally large compared to your body you will still be capable of Inteligent thought. Assuming that this creature is supposed to be vaguely humanoid-shaped they should "realistically" not be penalized for "small bain size" even when taking into account having to devote extra processor cycles to making the wings work.</p><p></p><p>Honestly, when I first looked at the mental stat mods I assumed that the Wis penalty was to represent them being all flighty and carefree and reckless fey-ish while the Int penalty was to represent them being simple and childlike and living-in-the-moment fey-ish. Not because they were small! I mean, do giants in your setting get Int bonuses? </p><p></p><p></p><p>I understand what you are trying to do. You want something to represent a concept in your setting and you think there ought to be no reason why you can't represent that idea with a LA 0 race right? I mean it should just be a matter of stacking up the penalties until they equal the bonuses and that should be LA 0 shouldnt' it? Unfortunaetly d20 doesn't work that way. The system rewards specilization more than it penalizes a lack of breadth and it is the nature of LA races to be natural specalists meaning that we balance their LA against the worst-case scenario of somebody using them in their specality rather than working across it. This race will be a halfway decent sneak attacker, an excellent scout and a kick-ass sorcerer. Trust me, I know. I played in a game with a Spryte Runethane and she had no trouble standing on equal footing with the rest of the party.</p><p></p><p>And I don't think that you will ever get it down to LA 0 either. Stacking more and more panalties usually doesn't make a race more balanced, only more lopsided as their capacity in one area remains undiminished while they become less and less capable in everything else. Personally I would recomend you drop either the Int or Wis penalty and reduce the Con penalty to -2 and call it a LA +2. If you then trust your players you could go ahead and let them have it at LA +1 and not stress yourself over the party balance too much. Your other option could be to take a look at the Spryte from AU and either steal it or use it as a foundation for your own fey. Raical levels have a different balance than LA and help offset some of the more irritating problems of LA, particularly the HP issue. </p><p></p><p>Hope that helps.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="argo, post: 1681047, member: 5752"] No way you are going to get a flying race with LA 0. Yes, yes I know other characters can cast fly or buy a magic item. Doesn't matter. This is always-on flying that uses neither daily powers nor cash resources and is not vulneurable to dispel magic etc. You are right abut Str and, to a lesser extent, Con (though -4 is prety steep) but you are wrong about Int. As near as we can tell inteligence is a function of the structures of the brain (lizard brain vs mamal brain) as well as the [i]ratio[/i] of brain size to body mass. You are correct about needing to use a % of your brain to control your body but if your brain is proportionally large compared to your body you will still be capable of Inteligent thought. Assuming that this creature is supposed to be vaguely humanoid-shaped they should "realistically" not be penalized for "small bain size" even when taking into account having to devote extra processor cycles to making the wings work. Honestly, when I first looked at the mental stat mods I assumed that the Wis penalty was to represent them being all flighty and carefree and reckless fey-ish while the Int penalty was to represent them being simple and childlike and living-in-the-moment fey-ish. Not because they were small! I mean, do giants in your setting get Int bonuses? I understand what you are trying to do. You want something to represent a concept in your setting and you think there ought to be no reason why you can't represent that idea with a LA 0 race right? I mean it should just be a matter of stacking up the penalties until they equal the bonuses and that should be LA 0 shouldnt' it? Unfortunaetly d20 doesn't work that way. The system rewards specilization more than it penalizes a lack of breadth and it is the nature of LA races to be natural specalists meaning that we balance their LA against the worst-case scenario of somebody using them in their specality rather than working across it. This race will be a halfway decent sneak attacker, an excellent scout and a kick-ass sorcerer. Trust me, I know. I played in a game with a Spryte Runethane and she had no trouble standing on equal footing with the rest of the party. And I don't think that you will ever get it down to LA 0 either. Stacking more and more panalties usually doesn't make a race more balanced, only more lopsided as their capacity in one area remains undiminished while they become less and less capable in everything else. Personally I would recomend you drop either the Int or Wis penalty and reduce the Con penalty to -2 and call it a LA +2. If you then trust your players you could go ahead and let them have it at LA +1 and not stress yourself over the party balance too much. Your other option could be to take a look at the Spryte from AU and either steal it or use it as a foundation for your own fey. Raical levels have a different balance than LA and help offset some of the more irritating problems of LA, particularly the HP issue. Hope that helps. [/QUOTE]
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