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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ratskinner" data-source="post: 5885966" data-attributes="member: 6688937">If I may...Well there's your problem!<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />The better answer, IME is "How are trying to find out?" or "You don't know, you've never seen anything like it." or the ever popular and comedic "Are you asking him?"<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />If the fighter really wanted to fight like that orc, I'd happily write up some side-quest for him to find the orcish Yoda (or whatever) so that he could retrain with some orc-flavored maneuvers. That's DM work that's rewarding. It makes the campaign and the character more interesting and unique.What's not rewarding? Spending half an hour or more working up stats for some Clr3/Wiz3/Prc2 dude and then watching him perish in flames by round 2. Look, if WOTC works it out so that adding 5 levels of cleric to an existing monster or NPC is a 2 minute operation...then fine, that's awesome. However, I'm not holding my breath. I just think its (probably) far easier to whip up that 7th level Kobold Shaman by starting with a 7th level Kobold, and then tacking on some "Shaman" juice (or vice versa, tack some Koboldity onto a 7th level artillery/leader template.) Speed of prep for the DM is the crux of the whole issue, for me.</blockquote>

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