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<blockquote data-quote="Janaxstrus" data-source="post: 5887990" data-attributes="member: 3201">Can PC's join this cult and get the power?&nbsp; If not, no, I wouldn't allow it in my world.&nbsp; If the players have the chance to do so, it's less of an issue.I really don't care how you guys want to justify it or how you guys play it in your campaign.&nbsp; 3e did the best job, in my opinion, of making a logical world, because NPCs and PCs had the same rules.&nbsp; If they want to have &quot;He can do this because, he just can and I'm the DM&quot; in 5e, fine.&nbsp; I won't use it, I want the &quot;PCs and NPCs live in the same world and are logical and consistent&quot; version, which is what the OP was advocating the dissolution of.Not every monster needs them, there were 5 books of monsters in 3e, the vast vast majority of which don't have classes, nor would they necessarily make sense on.&nbsp; I do want the option in the core to do it, in what *I* consider the right way, for my world.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Janaxstrus, post: 5887990, member: 3201"] Can PC's join this cult and get the power? If not, no, I wouldn't allow it in my world. If the players have the chance to do so, it's less of an issue. I really don't care how you guys want to justify it or how you guys play it in your campaign. 3e did the best job, in my opinion, of making a logical world, because NPCs and PCs had the same rules. If they want to have "He can do this because, he just can and I'm the DM" in 5e, fine. I won't use it, I want the "PCs and NPCs live in the same world and are logical and consistent" version, which is what the OP was advocating the dissolution of. Not every monster needs them, there were 5 books of monsters in 3e, the vast vast majority of which don't have classes, nor would they necessarily make sense on. I do want the option in the core to do it, in what *I* consider the right way, for my world. [/QUOTE]

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