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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 815863" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>This is a feat which does not have alot of good symmetric uses, and as such won't benifit the average PC party. </p><p></p><p>This is a feat for individuals who solve problems with extreme stealth, reconaisance, and trickery and are probably acting alone.</p><p></p><p>I've had a character that could have made alot of use of this feat, but for standard PC's, it's pretty useless.</p><p></p><p>I'm not going to convince you that at a +3 penalty this is a better than average feat - even I don't believe that. But if you think this is a useless feat, give it to a high level Arcane Trickster or spell oriented Assassine NPC and use him as a foil for the PC party. Skilled use of this feat could be REALLY annoying, and I (having played that sort of character as a PC) can tell you that the designers probably were right to err on the side of caution with 'delayed' spells.</p><p></p><p>But that doesn't mean I don't think it wouldn't be better balanced at +2.</p><p></p><p>But +1 would make it _WAY_ too good of a spell.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 815863, member: 4937"] This is a feat which does not have alot of good symmetric uses, and as such won't benifit the average PC party. This is a feat for individuals who solve problems with extreme stealth, reconaisance, and trickery and are probably acting alone. I've had a character that could have made alot of use of this feat, but for standard PC's, it's pretty useless. I'm not going to convince you that at a +3 penalty this is a better than average feat - even I don't believe that. But if you think this is a useless feat, give it to a high level Arcane Trickster or spell oriented Assassine NPC and use him as a foil for the PC party. Skilled use of this feat could be REALLY annoying, and I (having played that sort of character as a PC) can tell you that the designers probably were right to err on the side of caution with 'delayed' spells. But that doesn't mean I don't think it wouldn't be better balanced at +2. But +1 would make it _WAY_ too good of a spell. [/QUOTE]
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