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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 572079" data-attributes="member: 1465">Before playing D&D I basically would have thought of "Clerics" like Christian/Islamic/Hebrew/etc. priests, who are focused on knowledge, teaching, caring for the poors...Of course D&D Clerics are combat effective, and they cast spells. But I just didn't like very much that they could only be that. I mean, it's fine to have a warpriest, or a cleric who studies magic (MetaM. and Item creation), but I felt that both cases are quite straying away from being a typical religion member - which an adventuring Cleric is probably not, anyway <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> - and I wished to have Feats other than the ones improving combat or metamagicking spells (a practice I find appropriate more for arcane spellcasters than divine).You have some chances with PHB feats: Leadership, Skill Focus (Religion, Diplomacy) to make a proselitizer, for example.At least, DotF Divine feats gave us chances to concentrate a Cleric's talent on channeling positive/negative energy, which makes him more unique, although the practical effect of those feat are not necessarily something very unique <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />.I wished there were feats to furthermore improve a Cleric's healing abilities also, beyond just metamagicking healing spells (which by the way is a very ineffective tactic <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />), or a non-good Cleric use of curses, or to get use of religious ceremonies and rituals, or to pursue a redeemer-converter's career.Of course, there are ways other than feats: there are Prestige Classes! But I'd also like my Cleric to have something more attractive to choose as his next feat other than a useful but anonymous Great Fortitude, or useful but possibly out-of-character Empower Spell or Power Attack.I think the WotC 5 classbooks have sensibly improved feat selections for other classes as well.</blockquote>

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