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<blockquote data-quote="Jeremy" data-source="post: 330978" data-attributes="member: 4036"><p>The errata does indeed say so as does the FAQ because the question was asked so often. It is not perhaps.</p><p></p><p>The reason that was given for improved trip's extra attack being disallowed is that improved trip allows a followup attack after a successful trip, knockdown is more like decking someone with a powerful blow and there is not the opportunity for the followup unless you have further attacks. That may makes sense to you, or it may seem thin, but that's the way the rules currently stand.</p><p></p><p>Unfortunately prone is a condition listed in the DMG and it does not include losing your dex bonus. You can still roll aside or manipulate your body in such a way as to dodge attacks. This is important because adding expert tactician attacks or sneak attacks to trip (which already does not provide an AofO even before feats) would upset some.</p><p></p><p>And snarkiness aside, your tag is Pax right? Peace? Let it slide. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jeremy, post: 330978, member: 4036"] The errata does indeed say so as does the FAQ because the question was asked so often. It is not perhaps. The reason that was given for improved trip's extra attack being disallowed is that improved trip allows a followup attack after a successful trip, knockdown is more like decking someone with a powerful blow and there is not the opportunity for the followup unless you have further attacks. That may makes sense to you, or it may seem thin, but that's the way the rules currently stand. Unfortunately prone is a condition listed in the DMG and it does not include losing your dex bonus. You can still roll aside or manipulate your body in such a way as to dodge attacks. This is important because adding expert tactician attacks or sneak attacks to trip (which already does not provide an AofO even before feats) would upset some. And snarkiness aside, your tag is Pax right? Peace? Let it slide. :) [/QUOTE]
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