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<blockquote data-quote="tarkin" data-source="post: 366270" data-attributes="member: 2824">Regarding lightning Fists.PROVE IT.I did the math, i would love to see yours.My math said that when you double your attacks, you are effectively ADDING the possible damage.At 1 attack doing 1d6, Strength of 14, that means a Flurry increases damage by 1d6+2 (average 5), at the cost of -2 to hit.&nbsp; Power attack only increases it by +2 for the -2, so Power Attack is worse than Flurry, in that case.Lightning Fists will double the number of attacks at Level 6-9.Assuming level 7/8 that means you are adding 1d10+2 average +7, at a cost of -5.&nbsp; Power Attack would only do +5 for -5.&nbsp;&nbsp; If your strength is higher than 14, say 22 after magic, the difference becomes even more dramatic.&nbsp; Ever notice how fighter types tend to get get high Strength?Lightning Fists is almost always better than Power Attack.If you disagree, fine.&nbsp; Prove. Do not just state that I am wrong, give me an example of any character and ANY AC your choice.&nbsp; Show me the average damage for both Power Attack and Lightning Fists for your example or show me your math formulas.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="tarkin, post: 366270, member: 2824"] Regarding lightning Fists. PROVE IT. I did the math, i would love to see yours. My math said that when you double your attacks, you are effectively ADDING the possible damage. At 1 attack doing 1d6, Strength of 14, that means a Flurry increases damage by 1d6+2 (average 5), at the cost of -2 to hit. Power attack only increases it by +2 for the -2, so Power Attack is worse than Flurry, in that case. Lightning Fists will double the number of attacks at Level 6-9. Assuming level 7/8 that means you are adding 1d10+2 average +7, at a cost of -5. Power Attack would only do +5 for -5. If your strength is higher than 14, say 22 after magic, the difference becomes even more dramatic. Ever notice how fighter types tend to get get high Strength? Lightning Fists is almost always better than Power Attack. [SIZE=3]If you disagree, fine. Prove.[/SIZE] Do not just state that I am wrong, give me an example of any character and ANY AC your choice. Show me the average damage for both Power Attack and Lightning Fists for your example or show me your math formulas. [/QUOTE]

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