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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Merlion" data-source="post: 700535" data-attributes="member: 10397">First let me say that none of that was intended to be harsh or anything if it came across that way. The general practices and opnions of a lot of people on thease boards just isnt what I'm used to.  Now most certainly some things are or would be to powerful...although again a lot of that is a matter of opnion and play style.   You feel that a class that can be abused in the ways that you've seen arch mage abused is badly designed. I DO understand and certainly respect that.  its just that whenever someone on here declares something to be broken, there examples are usualy drasticaly overall-broken characters. I'd like to see an example of a character with one of thease prestige classes that shows its brokenness or bad design that isnt min/maxed up and down.  Again my issue is the design part...I havent seen much in anything that I think is badly designed especialy on the two-powerful level. Now I've seen stuff that was badly designed in the sense of being extremely unclear....I do think that there are to bleeping many PrCls out there and that that has maybe taken some of the specialness of them away..a whole lot of them are rather redundant..and of course I havent taken much time to really analyze any of them beyond the level of wether I like them aestheticaly or not, addmitedly.   Do I think the designers did a bad job on the arch mage? No I dont. Do I think they could have made it harder to abuse? Yes most certainly. I personaly, totaly in my own opnion, dont think they really should worry that much about that.   Now tell me this...how or in what ways do you find the Arch Mage unbalanced or badly designed, min max potential aside? THATS what I am truly interested in since frankly and no offense ment to anyone, what the powergamers or whatever do with a thing is for me personaly irrlevant and meaningless because thats not my style of play.   And again, nothing ment to be harsh or anything Numion I am actualy enjoying this discussion much.</blockquote>

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