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<blockquote data-quote="Simulacrum" data-source="post: 705120" data-attributes="member: 7749"><p>you guys only see what a munchkin *COULD* do with a PrC and its features, but fail to see the big picture. I mean for real, an Archmage Redwizard who did only take Spellpower, spellfoci etc..</p><p>that mage is a joke. For starters: he is a Red that means he starts with 3 feats gone for item creation etc... then to max the PrC classes out he has to be what--> a 20 level character?</p><p>And you tell me this guy isnt going to match against CR 18 creatures with all sort of super immunities and spells and custom magic items all the time?? *lol* you must be joking</p><p>Now just in case you guys didnt notice: this guy is never going to happen ever. In a true game with a clever DM this guy is going nowhere and will die some horrible death, because a) he completely predictable all the time and can only rely on his blasting power (remember that guy has to drop 3 schools of magic in most cases) and believe me there are many spells missing that you just take so easy for granted in your assumptions.</p><p>and b) its obvious that this mage was just *build* by some munchkin and not played for real.</p><p>c) he has only 10 feats all in all, that makes it hell difficult to step up at first. Lets see: Tattoo Focus, Spell Focus + GSF, 3 Item creation feats or Metamagic, Spellfocus (prerequ), Skill Focus (prerequ)</p><p>...oh wait did you notice? It doesnt work out that well too, he cant take the Archmage prestige class on avaibility....ooops.</p><p>This means he has to delay even further that makes him a 22 lvl caster suddenly mhhhh. </p><p></p><p>No really this is all abstract bla bla and so far from reality that it gets silly to debate over it.</p><p>DC's of 39 are IMPOSSIBLE to come by (for non reds it is impossible completely), and of no use after all, because you look like a dork and have no flexibility and no true choices. </p><p>Also those super wizards have to invest millions for their magic items and books, now why shouldnt the enemies have the same? Or more likely-> much bigger recources?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Simulacrum, post: 705120, member: 7749"] you guys only see what a munchkin *COULD* do with a PrC and its features, but fail to see the big picture. I mean for real, an Archmage Redwizard who did only take Spellpower, spellfoci etc.. that mage is a joke. For starters: he is a Red that means he starts with 3 feats gone for item creation etc... then to max the PrC classes out he has to be what--> a 20 level character? And you tell me this guy isnt going to match against CR 18 creatures with all sort of super immunities and spells and custom magic items all the time?? *lol* you must be joking Now just in case you guys didnt notice: this guy is never going to happen ever. In a true game with a clever DM this guy is going nowhere and will die some horrible death, because a) he completely predictable all the time and can only rely on his blasting power (remember that guy has to drop 3 schools of magic in most cases) and believe me there are many spells missing that you just take so easy for granted in your assumptions. and b) its obvious that this mage was just *build* by some munchkin and not played for real. c) he has only 10 feats all in all, that makes it hell difficult to step up at first. Lets see: Tattoo Focus, Spell Focus + GSF, 3 Item creation feats or Metamagic, Spellfocus (prerequ), Skill Focus (prerequ) ...oh wait did you notice? It doesnt work out that well too, he cant take the Archmage prestige class on avaibility....ooops. This means he has to delay even further that makes him a 22 lvl caster suddenly mhhhh. No really this is all abstract bla bla and so far from reality that it gets silly to debate over it. DC's of 39 are IMPOSSIBLE to come by (for non reds it is impossible completely), and of no use after all, because you look like a dork and have no flexibility and no true choices. Also those super wizards have to invest millions for their magic items and books, now why shouldnt the enemies have the same? Or more likely-> much bigger recources? [/QUOTE]
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