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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Storm Raven" data-source="post: 696424" data-attributes="member: 307">Given that most Wizards max out Knowledge (Arcana) anyway, you are only talking about adding one more Knowledge skill. Given that the Loremaster has 4 skill points per level, you are going to get all of those skill points back at the very least.Nothing says you must take a PrC at the earliest possible opportunity. Loremaster is a PrC that one can easily put off until 10th, 12th or 15th level and still gain a large benefit from it.Scry on familiar is almost valueless, since the use of a single 4th level spell will let you scry on it anyway. The loss of familiar Spell Resistance is a cost, but not that big of one, most of the familiar's other abilities continue to progress even with the PrC.Yes, and? Given that Wizards tend to acquire more skill points as they go (as a result of increasing their Intelligence on a regular basis), and given that they don't have all that many skills that are critical for them to function, this is not a big obstacle. The only critical Wizard skills are Concentration and Spellcraft, after those, you can select your skills as you choose. A 16 Intelligence Wizard can choose those plus two Knowledge skills and a Craft skill almost effortlessly. A human Wizard can choose Scry as well.And you are already going to take two feats in that group to begin with. You must take Scribe Scroll, you must take a metamagic or item creation feat at 5th level. You are already halfway to the PrC feat requirments just with your mandatory selections.Nothing requires you take the full 10 levels of Loremaster. You can easily take just 5 levels and do just fine.A human Loremaster could have two of them. A Loremaster that waited until 10th level to complete the requirements for Loremaster could have all three as well. (1st Scribe Scroll, Spell Focus; 3rd Spell Penetration; 5th Item Creation//Metamagic; 6th Leadership; 9th Skill Focus; 10th Item Creation/Metamagic). It is not as hard as you make it out to be.It isn't "bogus", it is showing that the PrC can be easily obtained at limited cost. Besides, it is easy to show how a nonhuman can advance to Loremaster with limited cost as well. You keep harping on how impossible it is to meet the requirements, but you ignore the fact that nothing says you must take the PrC at 8th level.Who is arguing against the Loremaster?</blockquote>

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