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Message: <blockquote data-quote="howlingwolf" data-source="post: 124375" data-attributes="member: 3904">I wanted to post a reply to a couple of the responses.  I am one of the co-creators along with Kershek for these feats.  I thought a little more background on the two wilderness feats might be of help.  We were playing a wilderness encounter at the time, I was running a Druid and another player had the rogue.  It quickly became obvious that there was something not quite right about the rogue being able to sneak around the woods, while the druid stood there being useless.  Why would a Druid not be able to move silently, hide, etc, when in the wilderness?  They are supposed to be inately in tune with nature.  These two feats were really created to try and overcome that imbalance.  Now it is possible, that the approach we should have taken was to alter the class itself, but we decided that the addition of feats would seem more reasonable.  Also with move silent, hide, spot and listen as cross-class skills, this makes it very difficult for a Druid to gain many ranks in any of these skills, so it is not a good avenue to take to really get the Druid where they should be.  As it stands, the Druid would have to expend skill points for Wilderness lore, and they would also have to expend an entire feat.  I don't see that as terribly imbalancing, especially when you consider that gaining only half the ranks is like taking a cross-class skill.  Now, I could agree, that we should remove the +2 bonus, and make it just the half of the bonus from wilderness lore.   This seems reasonable since the feat wilderness stealth gives you both move silent and hide skills, so it essentially equates to getting one skill in class.  Remember though, this is only useful in wilderness areas, which is maybe 20-30% of the average gaming session, a huge limitation.  All in all then, you have used one feat, to gain partial use of two cross-class skills in a limited manner.  Thoughts?</blockquote>

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