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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ulrick" data-source="post: 819894" data-attributes="member: 775">This thread was inspired by me going to a local hobby store seeing $40 books and seeing $30 books that didn't have much content in them. Then I go to amazon.com and despite 30% discount, the books are almost out of what I'm willing to pay.  Yeah. I've heard the following arguments: ---"Well, you can get hours and hours of entertainment out of a gaming product so its worth the price." I can't argue against this in the case of the core rule books. These are worth the money spent. But its all these other books that I'm annoyed at. How many hours of entertainment have you gotten out of Dieties and Demigods? The arms and equipment guide? Or any other book produced by a 3rd party publisher that isn't a module? How often do DMs allow all that d20 stuff in their games? How many of you have bought something only to have your DM say, "No, you can't use that."---"Try PDFs." Now PDFs are fantastic. I should be checking more of those out. ---"But if a bunch of gamers don't buy books then companies will go out of business and the hobby will die!" So what if companies go under because people refuse to pay full price for RPG books! Some will survive, some won't. Those that survive will have developed a way to produce the product cheaper. Those that thrive will have it cheaper but at the same quality or even better. The hobby would not die, only the companies that fail to adapt. In the end, you, the gamer, would benefit. At this point--It's too big. And besides, say for instance, it does die, according to the 1st argument gamers will still be getting hours and hours of enternment  out of their books. ---"Inflation and the economy." The inflation rate is an average, an average which is the sum of many many variables. I don't put much stock in averages like that. But I do know that the average gaming book is priced too high. Also, my argument mentioned nothing about the so called "terrible economy." Please stay on topic. ---"Support the gaming industry/hobby/FLGS!" Why should we when they charge too much for books? My local gaming store doesn't offer discounts. Heck, although the enworld online store offers discounts you still have to buy a lot to make up for shipping. That's not a deal. --"Businesses are out to make money." I've heard this before too--especially with 3.5 coming out. Yet I believe that businesses shouldn't be in business just to make money. Screwing your clients with high prices.  over isn't good business. -- "If you don't like the prices of rulebooks, then don't buy them!" I won't, but perhaps I'll take a step further to ask others not to either. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></blockquote>

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