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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AaronOfBarbaria" data-source="post: 6843893" data-attributes="member: 6701872">So... putting in effort (all that reading the book), but not seeing results as fast as some other person would prefer, and not using a method to learn that another person suggests that might not even actually be helpful to you because of the way you learn, is disrespectful?At what point does "Jim's really interested in becoming good at playing a wizard, but is having some difficulty achieving that goal," become "Jim's is disrespecting everyone else at the table by playing a wizard."?I've known players that could be reading the PHB on their off time between sessions, and reading it from the end of each of their turns until the start of their next, that still take a bit of time to be sure how it is they go about doing what it is they want to do.Maybe it is because I have a particular weakness in my own ability to retain information (If I write anything down, I invariably forget everything about what I have written other than that I have written it down - so if I lose that bit of paper, I have lost all hope of knowing whatever it was that I followed the constantly given advice of "write it down so you don't forget it." and wrote down), but all I see in this scenario of someone supposedly being disrespectful is someone letting their lack of patience turn them into the kid in school that bullied a kid for reading out loud slowly and caused that slow-reader that was interested in getting better at reading to instead hate reading and feel terribly.I agree with Wheaton... I just find that I'm more likely to apply by means of "Everybody just chill. Go ahead Jim, it's your turn, take all the time you need." than by means of "Stop holding up the game, Jim!" because "all the time you need" is what I am making sure everyone at the table has on their turn, not some specific amount of seconds. It is one of many cases when "equal" and "fair" aren't actually synonymous.</blockquote>

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