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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ovinomancer" data-source="post: 6844105" data-attributes="member: 16814">See, you're looking for a hard rule that you can then find an example of to show how it's unfair in whatever thought experiment you draft for the purpose.  I'm operating on the fact that I'm a person dealing with persons with relatable life experience, and that I won't be operating in some vacuum of 'defined improvement only' and 'define timeline only' and will have access to such things as actual discussions with the player and with the rest of the group to fill in necessary holes in understanding and expectations.So your answer is 'well, it depends on a bunch of factors that come up when your in a social interaction with a group.'  I made my initial complaint because I have dealt with a situation where a player, that I knew and who had no impediments to learning, just refused to put any work into the game and took forever having to figure things out on his turn slowing down play.  He doesn't play with us anymore (it wasn't a good fit).  In my current group, I have a range of learning disabilities, and a player who, through no fault of their own, is slow on rules uptake.  They make an effort though, and improve over time.  I don't set a schedule for them.I should have started here.  I'm struggling to figure out how I'm responsible for what other people said.  I said my piece, and clarified it in the face of your first set of questions.  Now you're holding me to account because I said my piece in a thread where other people also posted and I should have to defend their statements?  I really don't see that happening.</blockquote>

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