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<blockquote data-quote="takyris" data-source="post: 1178069" data-attributes="member: 5171"><p>Beyond that, remember that not all divinations give all the information.</p><p></p><p>Detect Lies only tells whether or not someone believes what they are saying. A simple Suggestion or Modify Memory can make that easy enough.</p><p></p><p>Speak with Dead only tells what the person knew at the time of their death -- so any good assassin wears a mask, or an illusion of someone else's face.</p><p></p><p>Any powerful bad guy has, what is it, False Vision, the spell that messes up Scrying attempts? And not just of the powerful bad guy alone in a room. No, they've got an illusion programmed that involves the bad guy shaking hands with someone the heroes trust -- a high-ranking official or something like that -- and then the bad guy says, "Oh, the PCs? They won't be a problem. We've got someone on the inside who is VERY close to them." And then he looks over at a corner, where one of the PCs' girlfriends or wives is in chains. "We never thought her cover would hold this long..."</p><p></p><p>And, once it's been triggered, it's a simple matter to ask a minion to go to the PC's wife down at the market and surreptitiously Sleight-of-Hand something into her pocket, a minor magical item that causes her to radiate powerful Illusion magic. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Oh, how your players will laugh when they realize that they've been duped into killing somebody's utterly innocent wife...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="takyris, post: 1178069, member: 5171"] Beyond that, remember that not all divinations give all the information. Detect Lies only tells whether or not someone believes what they are saying. A simple Suggestion or Modify Memory can make that easy enough. Speak with Dead only tells what the person knew at the time of their death -- so any good assassin wears a mask, or an illusion of someone else's face. Any powerful bad guy has, what is it, False Vision, the spell that messes up Scrying attempts? And not just of the powerful bad guy alone in a room. No, they've got an illusion programmed that involves the bad guy shaking hands with someone the heroes trust -- a high-ranking official or something like that -- and then the bad guy says, "Oh, the PCs? They won't be a problem. We've got someone on the inside who is VERY close to them." And then he looks over at a corner, where one of the PCs' girlfriends or wives is in chains. "We never thought her cover would hold this long..." And, once it's been triggered, it's a simple matter to ask a minion to go to the PC's wife down at the market and surreptitiously Sleight-of-Hand something into her pocket, a minor magical item that causes her to radiate powerful Illusion magic. :) Oh, how your players will laugh when they realize that they've been duped into killing somebody's utterly innocent wife... [/QUOTE]
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