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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Shemeska" data-source="post: 1450528" data-attributes="member: 11697">Aye, the Yugoloth creations myths were of course from the mouths of the 'loths themselves and thus based on reputation here there's doubt on the truth of it.However if you ignore them fully, the circumstantial evidence is pretty heavy. I'll have to dig out the actual quotes from Hellbound (which backs up 'Faces of Evil' but not directly out and out saying that was the truth). But as I recall it was along the lines of 'The Yugoloths don't make their case for their origins as insistently as the Tanar'ri or Baatezu, they just put out their proof and let it stand for itself.' (if that's from 'Faces of Evil', my mistake).The 'loths have circumstantial evidence of being far older than the Baatezu and Tanar'ri, and knowing things that they otherwise wouldn't about the other two fiendish races. The Maeldur et Kavurik (one of the earliest Solars who was corrupted by the Baern and used as a living device to provide the 3 fiend races with their teleport abilities), as well as the involvement of the Baernaloth by the name of Daru Ib Shamiq lends further credence to the basis of the Yugoloth myths.The information regarding Apomps and the Gehreleths also lends some more circumstantial evidence to parts of the 'loth creation myths.Little bits and pieces from different places back up their own versions of events, and well, there's precious few individuals old enough to have an honest claim to dispute those events. The Baern are freaking old... but good luck finding one and making it answer your questions. Same goes for anyone else of potentially equal age. Apomps might know, but he hates the Yugoloths with such a passion that he'd likely lie just to discredit them.In summation: portions of the 'Faces of Evil' creation myths are backed up by things not completely in character and subject to IC and source bias. But it doesn't explicitely back up everything, so there's perfectly enough room in there to make some things lies or halftruths. Not that a Yugoloth would ever do such a thing.  <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/devious.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":]" title="Devious    :]" data-shortname=":]" /></blockquote>

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