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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sidekick" data-source="post: 3005858" data-attributes="member: 13946">Hmm I'm glad it got stopped as well. Qudo's for the British and Pakistani Secret Service.As for living in Britain and terrorism being yet another risk, I'll admit I did constier the possiblility before I moved here. I made a conscious decision to take that risk when I came here. But as you say, its a pretty small risk, thankfully.You can't even take on breast milk for babies unless you taste it infront of security staff. So it really is EVERY liquid and also Gel. As well as electronic devices, one plan got turned around from England (headed to the US) because a cell phone was found on board - probably just some muppet cleaner dropping it and no-one finding it or something. Still better safe that sorry.Apparently the British Government have lifted the immediate secrutiy procedures, but BAA are keeping them in for at least another couple of days.There's been rumors about keeping the 'no-hand luggage' rule in on the long-term, which while it makes sence will severely piss me off. I've got a flight from Heathrow to NZ in Januarym all up its 26 hours on plane or in a flight lounge in San Fran, no toothpaste, shower-in-a-can, books, water etc will make that  areather uncomfortable flight for sure.Also as I understand it airports CAN detect liquid explosives, just not the machines that do hand-luggage. That tech is on the main luggage scanners, so it could be rolled out. Don't they have the chemical swabs in the US? I remember having my baggage checked for chemicals when I was there late Nov '04.Stopping Terrorism? Le'ts put this in an academic criminological point of view - these are in essence Situational Crime Prevention strategies.The essential plroblem with ALL situational crime prevention tools and efforts is that they very rarely dimish the number of crimes being carried out. They simply move them somewhere else, or the criminal modifies their MO to do something else in the same space.Eg - CCTV, all CCTV does is discourage peple from committing crime in that specific location. So either you (as a criminal) a) go somewhere else) or b switch crimes to make ti worth your while (say move from purse snatching to ram-raiding the ATM). Situational crime prevention merely seeks to make the risk greater than the reward, while anyone can see that so long as the reward/end goal is significant enough, any risks can be overcome with careful planning.That follks is the core flaw in Situational Crime Prevention techniques.[EDIT] I re-did this out outline the point, while also keeping it politics and religion free. if you think I didn't go far enough PM me or post a reply for me to remove this last section and I'll be happy to[/edit]</blockquote>

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