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<blockquote data-quote="saucercrab" data-source="post: 414914" data-attributes="member: 3659">No, we're using the Psionic's Handbook errata version of polymorph.I didn't say the dragon form was older than juvenile. The juvenile copper dragon is medium-size (perfect for the small-size kobold) &amp; has 14 HD (under the 15 HD limit). The troll is too big for the character, as it is large. And so far all the times he has polymorphed, he didn't have any useful magic items anyway, &amp; was done with casting spells (read: out of useful ones). You are correct about medium-size casters not being able to morph into large-size dragons (whoops!).And, we did miss the rule about the form having the caster's HD or less. My friend won't be happy to here this (his kobold is only 11th level). Oh well.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> Arundl,Each age category of dragons has average stats. IMO, in the case of dragons, each age category is meant to be a separate creature in terms of choices to change into (whether polymorphing or shapechanging or wildhshaping). Although it would make sense in all(?) other cases that average stats would include an average age.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="saucercrab, post: 414914, member: 3659"] No, we're using the [i]Psionic's Handbook[/i] errata version of polymorph. I didn't say the dragon form was older than juvenile. The juvenile copper dragon is medium-size (perfect for the small-size kobold) & has 14 HD (under the 15 HD limit). The troll is too big for the character, as it is large. And so far all the times he has polymorphed, he didn't have any useful magic items anyway, & was done with casting spells (read: out of useful ones). You are correct about medium-size casters not being able to morph into large-size dragons (whoops!). And, we did miss the rule about the form having the caster's HD or less. My friend won't be happy to here this (his kobold is only 11th level). Oh well. :D Arundl, Each age category of dragons has average stats. IMO, in the case of dragons, each age category is meant to be a separate creature in terms of choices to change into (whether polymorphing or shapechanging or wildhshaping). Although it would make sense in all(?) other cases that average stats would include an average age. [/QUOTE]

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