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<blockquote data-quote="sinecure" data-source="post: 4321825" data-attributes="member: 37668"><p>It was a poor decision on Wizards part to release this video. I don't think it has anything to do with whether I don't like it or you don't like it. It has to do with the audience they are trying to bring into D&D. People who play computer games.</p><p></p><p>I'm willing to bet that 9/10 times if you tell someone you play an RPG, they think you mean a video game. That's what RPGs are. A type of video game. If you watch people playing a video game, it would suck as bad as this video. Unless the guy kicks ass watching another guy play is basically boring. You're just seeing stuff in the game you'd rather get to see by playing it yourself. Watching only makes sense if the game sucks, but you still want to see what the next level will be. You want to win vicariously, but don't care enough to actually do it yourself.</p><p></p><p>This video was a horrible idea because it shows D&D as a combat game that takes ten times longer than it would on a computer. Not to mention that everyone has to wait for their turn to act. It's stupid slow. Why would anyone play a combat game without a computer? Paintball? Hell yeah!! A miniatures game not on a computer? WTF? Maybe little kids who want "rules" to play with their toys. Tabletop games have been utterly demolished by computer combat games. First person shooters kick any archer's ass. No version of the rules is going to beat a computer at combat. Get over it.</p><p></p><p>Everybody on that video already already knows this. As you can see in the first 5 minutes everybody at Wizards already plays World of Warcraft anyways. "You haven't downloaded the latest patch yet?" They know their game sucks in comparison. This is like a legacy product they hope to take into the computer age. They won't. They're basically betting that a DM on a computer game will make them the next great computer game company. Who in their right mind will pay $$ every month to use that 3D game thing they previewed on Youtube? Seeing how bad Master Tools and D&D Online both tanked, they are making a huge mistake. Wizards isn't exactly a good investment at the moment. </p><p></p><p>They should be focusing on <em>roleplaying</em>. Remember? That thing D&D actually lets you do, but you can't do on a computer. But they've taken roleplaying out of D&D. They've made a game where roleplaying actually hurts the game if you do it. I guess they think they can compete against computer combat games head to head because they've got the secret new DM gaming model. But of course they won't. That's why they will never be bigger than the tiny pond they now suffocate.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="sinecure, post: 4321825, member: 37668"] It was a poor decision on Wizards part to release this video. I don't think it has anything to do with whether I don't like it or you don't like it. It has to do with the audience they are trying to bring into D&D. People who play computer games. I'm willing to bet that 9/10 times if you tell someone you play an RPG, they think you mean a video game. That's what RPGs are. A type of video game. If you watch people playing a video game, it would suck as bad as this video. Unless the guy kicks ass watching another guy play is basically boring. You're just seeing stuff in the game you'd rather get to see by playing it yourself. Watching only makes sense if the game sucks, but you still want to see what the next level will be. You want to win vicariously, but don't care enough to actually do it yourself. This video was a horrible idea because it shows D&D as a combat game that takes ten times longer than it would on a computer. Not to mention that everyone has to wait for their turn to act. It's stupid slow. Why would anyone play a combat game without a computer? Paintball? Hell yeah!! A miniatures game not on a computer? WTF? Maybe little kids who want "rules" to play with their toys. Tabletop games have been utterly demolished by computer combat games. First person shooters kick any archer's ass. No version of the rules is going to beat a computer at combat. Get over it. Everybody on that video already already knows this. As you can see in the first 5 minutes everybody at Wizards already plays World of Warcraft anyways. "You haven't downloaded the latest patch yet?" They know their game sucks in comparison. This is like a legacy product they hope to take into the computer age. They won't. They're basically betting that a DM on a computer game will make them the next great computer game company. Who in their right mind will pay $$ every month to use that 3D game thing they previewed on Youtube? Seeing how bad Master Tools and D&D Online both tanked, they are making a huge mistake. Wizards isn't exactly a good investment at the moment. They should be focusing on [I]roleplaying[/I]. Remember? That thing D&D actually lets you do, but you can't do on a computer. But they've taken roleplaying out of D&D. They've made a game where roleplaying actually hurts the game if you do it. I guess they think they can compete against computer combat games head to head because they've got the secret new DM gaming model. But of course they won't. That's why they will never be bigger than the tiny pond they now suffocate. [/QUOTE]
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