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<blockquote data-quote="IceBear" data-source="post: 121996" data-attributes="member: 1118">*sigh* As I said I was just pointing out that all else being equal with the *current* rules a rogue archer from ambush will probably attack from 30ft away.&nbsp; Also, the odds are that someone in the group will have a speed of 30ft (that being the standard speed for Medium sized characters).&nbsp; Thus, with the current rules the odds that an ambusher could be engaged in melee after initiating the ambush is pretty high.&nbsp; By increasing the range to 45ft, the odds of the archer getting two rounds before someone can melee with him have increased.&nbsp; That's all I was saying.Yes, all the conditions you pointed out are true.&nbsp; I'm not denying that or stating that it would be horribly unbalanced with a feat chain to get it.&nbsp; I was just pointing out that it would increase the odds of an archer getting an extra round of missle fire in than in the current rules.&nbsp; Someone asked why the 30ft range was a &quot;sacred cow&quot; and I was just offering some rationale.&nbsp; I wasn't saying that you were wrong for changing it with a feat chain, I was just trying to provide some insight.&nbsp; Also, I think Lord Pendragon pointed out some of the other possible issues.IceBear</blockquote>

[QUOTE="IceBear, post: 121996, member: 1118"] *sigh* As I said I was just pointing out that all else being equal with the *current* rules a rogue archer from ambush will probably attack from 30ft away. Also, the odds are that someone in the group will have a speed of 30ft (that being the standard speed for Medium sized characters). Thus, with the current rules the odds that an ambusher could be engaged in melee after initiating the ambush is pretty high. By increasing the range to 45ft, the odds of the archer getting two rounds before someone can melee with him have increased. That's all I was saying. Yes, all the conditions you pointed out are true. I'm not denying that or stating that it would be horribly unbalanced with a feat chain to get it. I was just pointing out that it would increase the odds of an archer getting an extra round of missle fire in than in the current rules. Someone asked why the 30ft range was a "sacred cow" and I was just offering some rationale. I wasn't saying that you were wrong for changing it with a feat chain, I was just trying to provide some insight. Also, I think Lord Pendragon pointed out some of the other possible issues. IceBear [/QUOTE]

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