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<blockquote data-quote="Magus_Jerel" data-source="post: 128004" data-attributes="member: 3940"><p>opening up the range to a distance of sneak attacks from 30 feet to 45 feet REALLY hurts small characters.</p><p></p><p>when your base speed is only 20 feet - your double move distance is 40 - and your charge distance is 80 feet.</p><p></p><p>If that archer has a sneak attack range of 45 feet I HAVE to charge him in order to close to melee without Him getting a full round of sneak attack on my short butt.</p><p></p><p>If you want to demonstrate the abuseability this - get the archer a base move of 40 feet, and have a gnome with a base speed of 20 feet. A single level of barbarian can do this - as well as 3+ levels of monk.</p><p></p><p>The archer can take a partial action to move 40 feet - and shoot, while the little guy has to keep trying to take a double move action just to try and catch up - and MUST charge to get in a melee attack.</p><p></p><p>This is before you start slinging spells around like expeditious retreat, slow, haste... and worst of all -</p><p></p><p>What happens when the archer manages to get shot on the run?</p><p></p><p>Trust Me - an elven rogue/monk can do a WHOLE lot of bad things to people with a longbow... particularly once he got himself some boots of haste - 30 feet is bad enough... 45 would be much much worse.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Magus_Jerel, post: 128004, member: 3940"] opening up the range to a distance of sneak attacks from 30 feet to 45 feet REALLY hurts small characters. when your base speed is only 20 feet - your double move distance is 40 - and your charge distance is 80 feet. If that archer has a sneak attack range of 45 feet I HAVE to charge him in order to close to melee without Him getting a full round of sneak attack on my short butt. If you want to demonstrate the abuseability this - get the archer a base move of 40 feet, and have a gnome with a base speed of 20 feet. A single level of barbarian can do this - as well as 3+ levels of monk. The archer can take a partial action to move 40 feet - and shoot, while the little guy has to keep trying to take a double move action just to try and catch up - and MUST charge to get in a melee attack. This is before you start slinging spells around like expeditious retreat, slow, haste... and worst of all - What happens when the archer manages to get shot on the run? Trust Me - an elven rogue/monk can do a WHOLE lot of bad things to people with a longbow... particularly once he got himself some boots of haste - 30 feet is bad enough... 45 would be much much worse. [/QUOTE]
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