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<blockquote data-quote="DarkKestral" data-source="post: 2925191" data-attributes="member: 40100">I'll go with 1. However, I'll do it using pointbuy, set HPs, and set money/XP counts. I don't like messing around with players over money/attributes/classes. I'd much rather say: &quot;You've got X. Here's the basic campaign idea. What do you want to do?&quot; KNOWING full well that if a character is 'less-than-optimized' they're doing it for RP/concept reasons rather than just getting hit with bad die rolls. It sucks to have one character get massive bonuses to all attributes, max cash.. and then only need 2 attributes and no cash, while getting stuck with near minimal cash, low attributes just BARELY bordering on acceptable if you're a one-trick pony, and not being able to go with your preferred character concept at all, because the dice and levels didn't work out right. It can, and has made games feel 'sour' as a result. Give me reliability any day. Players need equal opportunity in character creation; sucky attributes make for unfun characters most of the time. The rare cases when they don't.. you can chalk up to people who liked the concept they got. It wasn't the sucky attributes that 'made it fun'.However, I also go with those rules for PCs, all NPCs, BBEGs, and monsters. I'm equal in that. You want 'heroic' stats? Well, you'll get them. So will most others.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DarkKestral, post: 2925191, member: 40100"] I'll go with 1. However, I'll do it using pointbuy, set HPs, and set money/XP counts. I don't like messing around with players over money/attributes/classes. I'd much rather say: "You've got X. Here's the basic campaign idea. What do you want to do?" KNOWING full well that if a character is 'less-than-optimized' they're doing it for RP/concept reasons rather than just getting hit with bad die rolls. It sucks to have one character get massive bonuses to all attributes, max cash.. and then only need 2 attributes and no cash, while getting stuck with near minimal cash, low attributes just BARELY bordering on acceptable if you're a one-trick pony, and not being able to go with your preferred character concept at all, because the dice and levels didn't work out right. It can, and has made games feel 'sour' as a result. Give me reliability any day. Players need equal opportunity in character creation; sucky attributes make for unfun characters most of the time. The rare cases when they don't.. you can chalk up to people who liked the concept they got. It wasn't the sucky attributes that 'made it fun'. However, I also go with those rules for PCs, all NPCs, BBEGs, and monsters. I'm equal in that. You want 'heroic' stats? Well, you'll get them. So will most others. [/QUOTE]

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