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<blockquote data-quote="Elder-Basilisk" data-source="post: 401015" data-attributes="member: 3146">I'm not sure that isn't a problem. At point buys higher than 36, stat points really cease being a scarce commodity (except for concepts which require high scores in almost every stat like monk, paladin, and some fighter/wizards). I would expect that a 42 point buy, for instance would allow characters to have an 18 in the stat that gives them power (spellcasting attributes, strength for meleers, dex for archer/rogues, etc), 14 or 16s in other relevant stats (usually con and dex or str), and still have enough points left over for higher than average scores in the stats they don't care about.At that point, the choice between playing an ECL race (like Aasmar or Tiefling) and playing a non-ECL race is the choice between a 20 in one primary stat and an 18 or a 20 in your secondary stat plus the other nifty ECL bonusses or a 20 in your primary stat, a 16 or 18 in your secondary, and above average scores in the rest of them. Or, you could afford to have decent base stats and a really powerful ECL race like a half dragon (they'd be what, 16 or 20 points? You could still start your fighter with a 26 strength, fire immunity, natural armor, and a breath weapon. . . .) Either way, the choice doesn't seem like it'd be that hard for powergamers.Then again, point buys that high break the system anyway, so maybe that really isn't such a problem.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Elder-Basilisk, post: 401015, member: 3146"] I'm not sure that isn't a problem. At point buys higher than 36, stat points really cease being a scarce commodity (except for concepts which require high scores in almost every stat like monk, paladin, and some fighter/wizards). I would expect that a 42 point buy, for instance would allow characters to have an 18 in the stat that gives them power (spellcasting attributes, strength for meleers, dex for archer/rogues, etc), 14 or 16s in other relevant stats (usually con and dex or str), and still have enough points left over for higher than average scores in the stats they don't care about. At that point, the choice between playing an ECL race (like Aasmar or Tiefling) and playing a non-ECL race is the choice between a 20 in one primary stat and an 18 or a 20 in your secondary stat plus the other nifty ECL bonusses or a 20 in your primary stat, a 16 or 18 in your secondary, and above average scores in the rest of them. Or, you could afford to have decent base stats and a really powerful ECL race like a half dragon (they'd be what, 16 or 20 points? You could still start your fighter with a 26 strength, fire immunity, natural armor, and a breath weapon. . . .) Either way, the choice doesn't seem like it'd be that hard for powergamers. Then again, point buys that high break the system anyway, so maybe that really isn't such a problem. [/QUOTE]

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