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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hrothgar Rannúlfr" data-source="post: 3831235" data-attributes="member: 54436">Ahh...! I see. (At least I think I do.  Or, maybe not.) <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused    :confused:"  data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" />  :\  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown    :("  data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /> The eight levels is coming from comparing a feat to what it normally takes to gain a +2 bonus to a score.  (However irrelevant that might be in terms of lower point buys for more rapid feat progressions or higher point-buys for slower feat progressions.)I was simply not seeing why you would compare one feat to the equivalent of two ability increases.  It looks like apples to oranges to me, even in a point-buy situation.My apologies for the added confusion.I still wouldn't offer or allow adjusting the point-buy to vary the feat progression.  It's easier (for me) to turn the level-based ability increases into bonus feats and then allow ability increases to be purchased as a feat (according to the sample given above).  This allows each character to customize their feat progression by adjusting their ability increases and vice-versa.As far as balancing the Original Poster's idea, I'd go about it by determining how many points of a point-buy are worth a level adjustment.  Then, I'd have to determine how many feats a level is worth.  (I can guage the first pretty accurately, but the second I haven't really thought about.)So, if we know how many feats a level is worth, we might be able to work out something that might be workable, even if I wouldn't use it or recommend it.I just don't understand how your comparing a single feat to a +2 increase to an ability score without comparing it in terms of feats?  To me, a +1 bonus to an ability score is about equal to one feat.Also, I haven't seen a breakdown of how many point-buy points are worth a feat.  Especially, since this could change as higher ability scores cost more point-buy points than lower scores do.  So, I need to know the variable to get from talking in terms of feats to talking in terms of how many feats are worth a level.Am I clear as mud? <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/paranoid.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":uhoh:" title="Paranoid    :uhoh:" data-shortname=":uhoh:" />  <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/paranoid.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":uhoh:" title="Paranoid    :uhoh:" data-shortname=":uhoh:" />  <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/paranoid.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":uhoh:" title="Paranoid    :uhoh:" data-shortname=":uhoh:" /></blockquote>

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