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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ogre Mage" data-source="post: 968153" data-attributes="member: 3404">Point Buy32 point buy.  I find this makes the characters tough enough to be formidable -- they are heroes after all -- without making things so easy that the DM has to adjust CR.  It is just enough points for a character with multiple stat dependencies, such as the monk or paladin, to be effective.  I like it because 32 point buy doesn't "punish" players for running these type of characters.28 point buy could be effective for a lower-powered campaign.  I would caution against using more than a 36 point buy.</blockquote>