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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Snoweel" data-source="post: 968330" data-attributes="member: 4453">Maybe the other superheroes are lower level than Batman. Hell, their powers/equipment are all better - there must be something that helps him compete.I hereby declare it level.Says you.Skill ranks?I think the problem is more with most peoples' interpretation of Charisma than D&D's interpretation.I see Charisma as more of an "ability to influence people" than "likeability".For example, two characters could say the exact same thing to two different NPCs and have entirely different results based on their Cha scores.Agreed.But skill ranks are far more important (especially at Batman's high level) than attribute bonuses.Fair enough.However, I have only gone by the movies (not a comic book fan) and he never seemed to be close to the "strongest, fastest, toughest" a person can be.Now you're getting close to the assumption that there is only one type of intelligence, and that mental attributes should restrict or even shape roleplaying aspects.The above could all be modelled by hard work and skill ranks in Knowledge, Craft and Profession gained by high levels.High Will save = high level.So you're saying that my low Wis character has to be a quitter for me to be roleplaying him correctly?Why don't I just make my determined PCs (and they're all determined) all high-Wis characters in future. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes    :rolleyes:"  data-smilie="11"data-shortname=":rolleyes:" />20 ranks in Intimidation will do this far better than a +3 bonus from Cha.d00d, rich people don't need Charisma to gain "legions of adoring women and envious men".As above. A mere 5 Ranks in Diplomacy will accomplish this better than an 18 Cha.QED???!!!???You haven't had much practice at this, have you?Good point.However, I do limit my "exceptional" NPCs thusly. All others are somewhere between this and 15-point characters.Just personal choice.</blockquote>

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