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<blockquote data-quote="Epicurus88" data-source="post: 1883721" data-attributes="member: 26167">If this is true, that racial stat bonuses are applied after you spend the allotted amount of points, It would seem to me that those people who selected a race with racial ability bonuses get an advantage of more points (tho only 'virtually') then those who choose a race with no racial bonuses.For example...We have a player who spends all his points and comes up with his array of ability scores.&nbsp; He’s put a 16 in Dexterity and a 10 in Constitution.&nbsp; Then he chooses to be an elf.&nbsp; He then applies the +2 to the Dex and the –2 to the Con resulting in an 18 Dex and an 8 Con.So, this is equivalent to the PC applying 6 extra points to raise the 16 to an 18, and loosing 2 spent points dropping the Con from 10 to 8.&nbsp; This adjustment nets the player 4 extra ‘virtual’ points over whatever the point buy limit was.&nbsp; Compare this to the player who chose a race with no ability adjustments who gets ZILCH in extra ‘virtual’ points.To me, this just says that PC’s who choose a race with ability score modifiers get extra ‘virtual’ points applied to their stats and those who don’t choose a race with ability score modifiers do not.&nbsp; Even with the negative ability score modifiers (meaning the –2 to Con in the above example), it’s not a balancing thing or a disadvantage if the net points remain in the positive (as illustrated in the above example).Does anyone see my point or am I off my rocker?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Epicurus88, post: 1883721, member: 26167"] If this is true, that racial stat bonuses are applied after you spend the allotted amount of points, It would seem to me that those people who selected a race with racial ability bonuses get an advantage of more points (tho only 'virtually') then those who choose a race with no racial bonuses. For example... We have a player who spends all his points and comes up with his array of ability scores. He’s put a 16 in Dexterity and a 10 in Constitution. Then he chooses to be an elf. He then applies the +2 to the Dex and the –2 to the Con resulting in an 18 Dex and an 8 Con. So, this is equivalent to the PC applying 6 extra points to raise the 16 to an 18, and loosing 2 spent points dropping the Con from 10 to 8. This adjustment nets the player 4 extra ‘virtual’ points over whatever the point buy limit was. Compare this to the player who chose a race with no ability adjustments who gets ZILCH in extra ‘virtual’ points. To me, this just says that PC’s who choose a race with ability score modifiers get extra ‘virtual’ points applied to their stats and those who don’t choose a race with ability score modifiers do not. Even with the negative ability score modifiers (meaning the –2 to Con in the above example), it’s not a balancing thing or a disadvantage if the net points remain in the positive (as illustrated in the above example). Does anyone see my point or am I off my rocker? [/QUOTE]

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