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Message: <blockquote data-quote="bret" data-source="post: 507382" data-attributes="member: 713">Decide what sort of attribute bonuses you want your characters to have.The easy way to do this is divide the points by 6 and see what attribute that would buy. Adjust to maximize bonus and for attributes over 14 appropriately.At 25 point buy if they split it evenly, they would have five 12s and a 13. Total of +6 attribute modifier. If they want an attribute higher than 14, they will not have as high a total modifier. If a character took an 18 in an attribute, they only  have 9 points left for the other five stats. Anyone doing this going to have multiple attributes with a penalty at this level of play. You could do 18, 13, and four 8s. Drop that to a 17 and you can get 17, 14, 10, and three 8s.The standard array (15, 14, 13, 12, 10, 8) is built on 25 points.At 28 point buy, the total becomes four 12s and two 14s. Total of +8 possible. Here it becomes more practical to have one very high attribute, although 18s will still be rare. You can now have an 18 without any penalty attributes (18, 11, four 10s). Going for highest attributes you would get 18. 16, 9 and three 8s.At 30 point buy, the total becomes three 12s and three 14s. Total of +9 possible. You can have a pretty high attribute plus a secondary attribute without taking a penalty. You see a lot of 15s and 16s, but 17s and 18s are still rare and take a lot of sacrifice. Going for the maximum in a few attributes you could have 18, 16, 12, and three 8s. Maximum attributes without a penalty attribute would be 18, 14, and four 10s.At 32 points buy you are likely to start seeing a few 18 attributes. Maximizing for total attribute modifier would give you two 12s and four 14s. This is the point where someone could finally buy two 18s but the rest of the attributes would be 8s.At 36 points buy you can have straight 14s for a total attribute modifier of +12. At this point, 17s and 18s become popular for the one stat wonders and there is very little pressure to have a penalty attribute. Going for maximized attributes you could buy two 18s, 12, and four 8s. Going for a small number of bonus attributes without any penalty attributes you could get 18, 16, 12 and three 10s.At 40 points you can have one 16 and five 14s for a total of +13 in attribute modifiers. Penalty attributes are going to be extremely rare considering you could buy two 18s and four 10s at this point. We are well into the high power game here.I hope this helps.</blockquote>

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