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<blockquote data-quote="incognito" data-source="post: 522608" data-attributes="member: 7008">Well, in truth I meant a stat set like 16, 14, 14, 13, 12, 11Rather than 18, 16, 14, 12, 10, 10.What I don't like is having a single 16, mean you are likely to take a negative stat.&nbsp;&nbsp; 16, &amp; 5 &quot;10's&quot; is already a 20 point buy-in. For 28 pts that would be&nbsp; 4 12's and a 10.&nbsp; Bleh.But I think it's the Monk example that bother's me the most:&nbsp; &nbsp;So, to even be a 1/2 competent Monk, I am slightly anti-social (8 CHA), and not so bright (8 INT).&nbsp; the INT really hurts - Monk is a skills intensive class. Monster wise, I think that the some of the standard creatures do not pose any problems for these guys, but that's &quot;sort of&quot; as it should be.&nbsp; And their saves are only +1, or +2 above where they would be. On the plus side, they feel genuinely heroic and competent - they trust in their skills and saves.&nbsp; And they still fail them all the time.&nbsp; One reason for this, is that they have chosen Iron Will, and Lightning Reflex type feats (no Great Fortitude yet, but we'll see...) I have to say E-B, You have impacted my thinking tho.&nbsp; maybe I'll try a 30 pt. buy</blockquote>

[QUOTE="incognito, post: 522608, member: 7008"] Well, in truth I meant a stat set like 16, 14, 14, 13, 12, 11 Rather than 18, 16, 14, 12, 10, 10. What I don't like is having a single 16, mean you are likely to take a negative stat. 16, & 5 "10's" is already a 20 point buy-in. For 28 pts that would be 4 12's and a 10. Bleh. But I think it's the Monk example that bother's me the most: So, to even be a 1/2 competent Monk, I am slightly anti-social (8 CHA), and not so bright (8 INT). the INT really hurts - Monk is a skills intensive class. Monster wise, I think that the some of the standard creatures do not pose any problems for these guys, but that's "sort of" as it should be. And their saves are only +1, or +2 above where they would be. On the plus side, they feel genuinely heroic and competent - they trust in their skills and saves. And they still fail them all the time. One reason for this, is that they have chosen Iron Will, and Lightning Reflex type feats (no Great Fortitude yet, but we'll see...) I have to say E-B, You have impacted my thinking tho. maybe I'll try a 30 pt. buy [/QUOTE]

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