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Message: <blockquote data-quote="bret" data-source="post: 771015" data-attributes="member: 713">Maybe some of them actually know a little about Statistics.The attributes give a bonus to all future rolls. A high strength is going to hit more often than a low Str.You only roll for attributes at the beginning of the character's life. After that, the attribute modifiers apply to all future rolls governed by that attribute.Dicing for skills, combat to-hit, saving throws, etc. happen many times (assuming the character survives). Over the course of a campaign, unless the dice are loaded, the results are pretty predictable. So what you have when you roll for attributes is a situation where someone over the long run is going to have a significant advantage over another character. There is no handicapping for the character with lower attributes, they are just going to be inferior for the whole life of the campaign.After seeing this for a couple of decades of gaming, it gets really old.Just a note, there are times when you don't even have to roll the dice in D20. It is called Taking 10 or Taking 20.</blockquote>