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<blockquote data-quote="Azlan" data-source="post: 785905" data-attributes="member: 2340">Oh, I'm sure those classes could be tweaked a little more to make them more equal than they already are. And I'm sure there are lots of people whose idea of a ranger (or whatever their particular &quot;misrepresnted&quot; or &quot;mistreated&quot; class might be) is not the same as the one(s) presented by 3E D&amp;D. But I stand by my original statement: Overall, the classes are equal.Equal in what? Spell-casting ability? Well, of course not. But a bard is much more than just a spell caster.I'll admit, the feats and skills presented in the 3E D&amp;D PH are not all equal in overall value. (For example, Toughness gives you an edge at 1st level, and maybe even a little at 2nd level, but after that, it's pretty lame. And, as most people here seem to agree, Skill Focus should give you +3, not +3.) But at least players are able to *choose* which feats and skills they take -- it is not determined for them by random dice rolls.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Azlan, post: 785905, member: 2340"] Oh, I'm sure those classes could be tweaked a little more to make them more equal than they already are. And I'm sure there are lots of people whose idea of a ranger (or whatever their particular "misrepresnted" or "mistreated" class might be) is not the same as the one(s) presented by 3E D&D. But I stand by my original statement: Overall, the classes are equal. Equal in what? Spell-casting ability? Well, of course not. But a bard is much more than just a spell caster. [B][/B] I'll admit, the feats and skills presented in the 3E D&D PH are not all equal in overall value. (For example, Toughness gives you an edge at 1st level, and maybe even a little at 2nd level, but after that, it's pretty lame. And, as most people here seem to agree, Skill Focus should give you +3, not +3.) But at least players are able to *choose* which feats and skills they take -- it is not determined for them by random dice rolls. [/QUOTE]

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