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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DollarD" data-source="post: 8516389" data-attributes="member: 7024789">Well, it is true that only 1 of the players had more than a campaign's experience with D&D, which might be why that happened. But when they have 3 8's, it says nothing about how they value CHA, INT and STR, for example. When they had to decide which gets the 8, 10 and 12, I saw more variety. I guess their first campaign had them a bit skittish about going down, as they prioritized towards high primary stat, high CON, and high DEX. With the new array, I don't think anyone dumped INT to 8, with it mixed between CHA/STR depending on the character concept, with DEX going to 8 for the paladin. So it did vary the builds by enough. Perhaps it could simply be inexperience/casual players trying to minmax, and after a few campaigns point-buy will result in a similar situation that you find with your players.</blockquote>