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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 7209505" data-attributes="member: 22779">At that point, I'm honestly wondering why you'd bother rolling [MENTION=6778044]Ilbranteloth[/MENTION].&nbsp; Those arrays you listed are pretty much standard arrays.&nbsp; Certainly within a couple of points anyway.&nbsp; Besides that guy with the 17 Dex and 15 con who's pretty much just begging to be a fighter or rogue.&nbsp; So, he's going to start with an 18 or 19 Dex.&nbsp; Effectively a bonus feat at first level.&nbsp; Sweet.&nbsp; He's actually better than EVERY rogue will ever be who starts with a point buy.&nbsp; Nice.&nbsp; As a fighter, he attacks several levels higher and has a better AC than the heavy armor characters for a fraction of the cost.&nbsp; Again, sweet.Never minding that poor schmuck you force to play the 12, 10, 10, 11, 14, 10 array.&nbsp; Whoohoo.&nbsp; I have to be a fighter or rogue who will never, ever be equal to Bob sitting beside me.&nbsp; Fantastic.&nbsp; Gimme more of that please.Yeah, no thanks.It's funny.&nbsp; We play with array or point buy (player choice) and yet, despite my current campaign of no casters (two rangers, a paladin, two fighters and a monk) none of the characters have even remotely similar stats.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 7209505, member: 22779"] At that point, I'm honestly wondering why you'd bother rolling [MENTION=6778044]Ilbranteloth[/MENTION]. Those arrays you listed are pretty much standard arrays. Certainly within a couple of points anyway. Besides that guy with the 17 Dex and 15 con who's pretty much just begging to be a fighter or rogue. So, he's going to start with an 18 or 19 Dex. Effectively a bonus feat at first level. Sweet. He's actually better than EVERY rogue will ever be who starts with a point buy. Nice. As a fighter, he attacks several levels higher and has a better AC than the heavy armor characters for a fraction of the cost. Again, sweet. Never minding that poor schmuck you force to play the 12, 10, 10, 11, 14, 10 array. Whoohoo. I have to be a fighter or rogue who will never, ever be equal to Bob sitting beside me. Fantastic. Gimme more of that please. Yeah, no thanks. It's funny. We play with array or point buy (player choice) and yet, despite my current campaign of no casters (two rangers, a paladin, two fighters and a monk) none of the characters have even remotely similar stats. [/QUOTE]

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