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<blockquote data-quote="Arial Black" data-source="post: 7209830" data-attributes="member: 6799649"><p>Not blaming you for this, but you raise the point: "I want to play the concept that I've already decided on ahead of time".</p><p></p><p>You get to the venue, and the DM insists on rolling for stats at session zero.</p><p></p><p>Solution 1: <s>Punch him in the face</s> Walk away from the game.</p><p></p><p>Solution 2: <s>Suck it up like a big boy</s> Roll up a set of stats and see what character appears.</p><p></p><p>You want to play your pre-conceived concept.</p><p></p><p>Chance of playing that concept if you go for solution 1 = zero. You don't play <em>at all!</em></p><p></p><p>Chance of playing that concept if you go for solution 2 = not very likely, but possible. Even better chance of getting something close enough. 100% chance of getting to play D&D with a PC you created, even if you use a different concept.</p><p></p><p>Either solution gives you the option of saving your precious concept for another day.</p><p></p><p>Solution 1 has literally no benefits. It's like a spoiled child who refuses to eat his dinner because he wants sweetcorn not peas.</p><p></p><p>There is a lie going around, masquerading as a 'reason' why rolling for stats is unthinkable: "I want to play the character I want, not something forced on me because some aspect of character creation is beyond my control". They state this <em>as if point-buy solves that problem!</em> It doesn't! It only solves that problem if the concept you have is tied irrevocably to a 27 point build. It doesn't solve my 26 point concept, or my 28 point concept, or my 5th level concept, or my superhero concept, or my demi-god concept, or the <em>infinite number of concepts in my idea-space that don't add up to 27 points!</em></p><p></p><p>To imagine that anyone's character idea-space only contains 27 point characters is absurd. The idea that 26 or 28 or 35 points would destroy that concept utterly is absurd. The idea that your concept is irrevocably ruined if your PC only has 13 Con instead of 14 Con is absurd. It's the "I'm going to hold my breath until I turn blue and then you'll be sorry!" school of D&D.</p><p></p><p>You're going to walk away because your Con is 13? Here, we've had a whip-round to get the bus fare for you so you can get away faster! Oh, you wanted us to beg you to stay and for us to promise to let you have what you want?</p><p></p><p>Nnnnnnnnno.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Arial Black, post: 7209830, member: 6799649"] Not blaming you for this, but you raise the point: "I want to play the concept that I've already decided on ahead of time". You get to the venue, and the DM insists on rolling for stats at session zero. Solution 1: [s]Punch him in the face[/s] Walk away from the game. Solution 2: [s]Suck it up like a big boy[/s] Roll up a set of stats and see what character appears. You want to play your pre-conceived concept. Chance of playing that concept if you go for solution 1 = zero. You don't play [i]at all![/i] Chance of playing that concept if you go for solution 2 = not very likely, but possible. Even better chance of getting something close enough. 100% chance of getting to play D&D with a PC you created, even if you use a different concept. Either solution gives you the option of saving your precious concept for another day. Solution 1 has literally no benefits. It's like a spoiled child who refuses to eat his dinner because he wants sweetcorn not peas. There is a lie going around, masquerading as a 'reason' why rolling for stats is unthinkable: "I want to play the character I want, not something forced on me because some aspect of character creation is beyond my control". They state this [i]as if point-buy solves that problem![/i] It doesn't! It only solves that problem if the concept you have is tied irrevocably to a 27 point build. It doesn't solve my 26 point concept, or my 28 point concept, or my 5th level concept, or my superhero concept, or my demi-god concept, or the [i]infinite number of concepts in my idea-space that don't add up to 27 points![/i] To imagine that anyone's character idea-space only contains 27 point characters is absurd. The idea that 26 or 28 or 35 points would destroy that concept utterly is absurd. The idea that your concept is irrevocably ruined if your PC only has 13 Con instead of 14 Con is absurd. It's the "I'm going to hold my breath until I turn blue and then you'll be sorry!" school of D&D. You're going to walk away because your Con is 13? Here, we've had a whip-round to get the bus fare for you so you can get away faster! Oh, you wanted us to beg you to stay and for us to promise to let you have what you want? Nnnnnnnnno. [/QUOTE]
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