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<blockquote data-quote="Caliban" data-source="post: 7210097" data-attributes="member: 284">In the sense that there is a limit to how far you can &quot;dump&quot; the stat.&nbsp;&nbsp; For example, you can't choose to have a stat lower than 8 with the 5e point buy rules. &nbsp;Sure you can.&nbsp; You look at your stats, and then you pick a class that doesn't need the lowest stat you rolled.&nbsp; It has been &quot;dumped&quot; - not by arranging the stats, but by choosing the class.&nbsp;&nbsp; Just because it takes place at a different point in the creation process doesn't mean it doesn't happen. &quot;Ooh, I rolled a 5 for Str, but a 17 for charisma.&nbsp; Guess this character is a Warlock or Sorcerer.&quot;&nbsp;&nbsp; I really don't have a problem with other people rolling for stats.&nbsp; It's just not for me.&nbsp;&nbsp; I've tried it a few times and more often than not, I didn't enjoy it.&nbsp; But - and this is a big &quot;but&quot; - I've spent most of my active playing in Organized Play settings.&nbsp;&nbsp; Living City, Living Greyhaw, Living Arcanis, Pathfinder Society, and Adventurer's League.&nbsp;&nbsp; Rolling is not an option there,&nbsp; point buy is mandated.&nbsp; &nbsp; By this point it seems more natural to me than rolling for stats. Previous to that, I was a teenager and rolling for stats meant &quot;rolling until you get good stats&quot; in every group I played with.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Caliban, post: 7210097, member: 284"] In the sense that there is a limit to how far you can "dump" the stat. For example, you can't choose to have a stat lower than 8 with the 5e point buy rules. Sure you can. You look at your stats, and then you pick a class that doesn't need the lowest stat you rolled. It has been "dumped" - not by arranging the stats, but by choosing the class. Just because it takes place at a different point in the creation process doesn't mean it doesn't happen. "Ooh, I rolled a 5 for Str, but a 17 for charisma. Guess this character is a Warlock or Sorcerer." I really don't have a problem with other people rolling for stats. It's just not for me. I've tried it a few times and more often than not, I didn't enjoy it. But - and this is a big "but" - I've spent most of my active playing in Organized Play settings. Living City, Living Greyhaw, Living Arcanis, Pathfinder Society, and Adventurer's League. Rolling is not an option there, point buy is mandated. By this point it seems more natural to me than rolling for stats. Previous to that, I was a teenager and rolling for stats meant "rolling until you get good stats" in every group I played with. [/QUOTE]

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