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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Arial Black" data-source="post: 7211055" data-attributes="member: 6799649">'Forcing someone to play a dwarf' would mean that they have to play a PC they don't like for an entire campaign. That could be a long time!'Forcing someone to create their PC using 4d6k3'.....actually is not forcing them to play a PC they don't like! You are the one who makes your PC, even if it begins with six scores that you didn't choose. Guess what, using the standard array is also starting with six scores you didn't choose! Using point-buy is starting with a total you didn't choose! It's a complaint which doesn't hold water.The reality is that each and every stat generation has its own set of advantages and disadvantages, whether that method is array, point-buy, roll in order, roll with conditional re-rolls, simply choosing whatever scores match your concept, whatever.It's perfectly okay to prefer one method over the others, perfectly okay to dislike a method. It's almost impossible not to have a preference. I've got no problem with anyone's preference, even if it doesn't match mine.But two things: first, it is possible that people make provably incorrect statements, or misleading statements, about their reasons for their preferences. 'Point-buy means that everyone can play what they want to play' is such a statement. Second, the idea that a game uses your second favourite method means you'd walk away from the game? Really? That is either hyperbole or a revealing insight into your personality.I like ice cream. My favourite flavour is raspberry ripple! I also like vanilla, strawberry ripple....strawberry ice cream is okay....I don't like chocolate ice cream though, even though I like chocolate. Weird, huh?If I can choose any three scoops from a choice of 20 flavours I'd choose 3 scoops of raspberry ripple every time! But if someone wants to buy me one, but one scoop has to be vanilla, fine; free ice cream!Imagine someone wants to buy me an ice cream. They don't have any raspberry ripple left. Would I really say, "Strawberry ripple? Are you kidding me? I'm outta here!"?You don't want to play Joe the Plumber. Fine. You don't want to play Superman. Fine. But the idea that you would rather walk away and not play at all, rather than play a 26 or 28 point PC of your own design, is absurd.If it is really true that you are unwilling to play any PC who doesn't add up to 27 points, then how could you object if the system was 'choose whatever scores match your concept'? You already have an idea-space that is exclusively filled with 27 point PCs, so you can go ahead and use one of your concepts. Would you stay with the game on the grounds that you can play a PC you find acceptable? Or would you walk away because other people might make PCs that you wouldn't like? Or would you walk away because any system that isn't 27 point-buy is...what? Immoral?What would you think of someone who gets the 3 ice cream scoops they ask for, but walks out of the shop without any ice cream on the grounds that someone else choose different scoops?</blockquote>

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