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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 7211615" data-attributes="member: 22779">Actually, it's 8-15, since no stat before racial adjustments can be above 15.&nbsp; But, it's still a bell curve.&nbsp; Remember, in 5e, it is not possible, using point buy, to have a stat over 15.&nbsp; 16+ is superhuman for a 1st level character.&nbsp; You're claiming that it's realistic for nearly every single PC to be superhuman.&nbsp; It's pretty unlikely you'll get no rolls above a 15 with your rolling system.And that's somehow more realistic?Minimum 8th level character, so, we're talking a tiny, tiny fraction of the game world.&nbsp; Also irrelevant for a conversation about chargen since we generally don't start at 8th level.&nbsp; But, as I said earlier, if you let me use standard array and then hand me two free ASI's, I'd be fine.Hang on.&nbsp; I never said ANYTHING about it being a &quot;horrible preference&quot;.&nbsp; If that's what you want to do, knock yourself out.&nbsp; Just don't pretend that it's something it's not.&nbsp; If you want to completely rewrite the game and then try to use your game as a talking point, it's pretty difficult since I don't play your game and you don't play mine.&nbsp; Frankly, I don't want to talk about your game, I don't care.&nbsp; I want to talk about D&amp;D.But, in any case it's not a horrible preference.&nbsp; It's simply that trying to rationalize it as somehow &quot;realistic&quot; is what I'm arguing against.&nbsp; It's not realistic.&nbsp; There's a reason that virtually no sim-based games use random stat generation.&nbsp; If it really was realistic, don't you think games like GURPS would be using it?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 7211615, member: 22779"] Actually, it's 8-15, since no stat before racial adjustments can be above 15. But, it's still a bell curve. Remember, in 5e, it is not possible, using point buy, to have a stat over 15. 16+ is superhuman for a 1st level character. You're claiming that it's realistic for nearly every single PC to be superhuman. It's pretty unlikely you'll get no rolls above a 15 with your rolling system. And that's somehow more realistic? Minimum 8th level character, so, we're talking a tiny, tiny fraction of the game world. Also irrelevant for a conversation about chargen since we generally don't start at 8th level. But, as I said earlier, if you let me use standard array and then hand me two free ASI's, I'd be fine. Hang on. I never said ANYTHING about it being a "horrible preference". If that's what you want to do, knock yourself out. Just don't pretend that it's something it's not. If you want to completely rewrite the game and then try to use your game as a talking point, it's pretty difficult since I don't play your game and you don't play mine. Frankly, I don't want to talk about your game, I don't care. I want to talk about D&D. But, in any case it's not a horrible preference. It's simply that trying to rationalize it as somehow "realistic" is what I'm arguing against. It's not realistic. There's a reason that virtually no sim-based games use random stat generation. If it really was realistic, don't you think games like GURPS would be using it? [/QUOTE]

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