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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 7216855" data-attributes="member: 22779">Which edition are you referring to?That's not 2nd edition.&nbsp; In 2e, Weapon Specs cost a single weapon prof (after the initial to get proficient with that weapon).&nbsp; That was it.&nbsp; Now, you could blow a weapon prof to be able to use two weapons with no penalties, but, that was in the Complete fighter and not the base game.In the Unearthed arcana, the first prof got you weapon specs and the second got you double specs.&nbsp; Which I think is what you are referring to.But, so what?&nbsp; Two weapon profs for a character that starts with 4 isn't really a cost is it?&nbsp; For getting +3/hit and damage and 50% more attacks?&nbsp; Bit of a no brainer there.And, just to put that in perspective, remember these are editions where the monsters didn't have a lot of HP.&nbsp; 5/HD on average, with no Con bonuses.&nbsp; A troll averages 33 hp.&nbsp; Mr. Specialized 2e fighter with two weapons and an 18 percentile strength deals up to 45 points of damage in a single round to a large creature at 1st level.&nbsp; Even without percentile strength, he's still dealing up to 36 (longsword and shortsword).&nbsp; Fighters were combat GODS in 2ed.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 7216855, member: 22779"] Which edition are you referring to? That's not 2nd edition. In 2e, Weapon Specs cost a single weapon prof (after the initial to get proficient with that weapon). That was it. Now, you could blow a weapon prof to be able to use two weapons with no penalties, but, that was in the Complete fighter and not the base game. In the Unearthed arcana, the first prof got you weapon specs and the second got you double specs. Which I think is what you are referring to. But, so what? Two weapon profs for a character that starts with 4 isn't really a cost is it? For getting +3/hit and damage and 50% more attacks? Bit of a no brainer there. And, just to put that in perspective, remember these are editions where the monsters didn't have a lot of HP. 5/HD on average, with no Con bonuses. A troll averages 33 hp. Mr. Specialized 2e fighter with two weapons and an 18 percentile strength deals up to 45 points of damage in a single round to a large creature at 1st level. Even without percentile strength, he's still dealing up to 36 (longsword and shortsword). Fighters were combat GODS in 2ed. [/QUOTE]

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