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<blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 7221171" data-attributes="member: 29398"><p>Now this, I have to say, is cool stuff.</p><p></p><p>By any chance do you happen to remember what the overall average point-buy cost turned out to be?</p><p></p><p>Also, how did your program (if it did at all) assign point-buy values to stats below 8?</p><p></p><p>And one thing that needs to be noted: point-buy values really skew high once an 18 gets rolled. Particularly if numbers less than 8 are treated like an 8 you could hypothetically have these two characters:</p><p></p><p>12-12-12-12-12-12 - average 12.0 - net overall bonus +6 - point buy cost 24</p><p>18-14-7-7-7-7 - average 10.0 - net overall bonus -2 - point buy cost 23</p><p></p><p>Roughly the same point cost...and about there all similarities end. Which means, while in large-data analysis pont-buy values is an OK comparison it might not always stand up for comparing individual characters.</p><p> </p><p>When I started playing 3e I rolled up two characters (the DM let us run two at a time, old-school style) - and their starting stat rolls were surprisingly close to the two sets you show here...except, change the 9 to a 7 in the first one and one of the 12s to a 14 in the second, so even more difference between them.</p><p></p><p>High-stat guy was a human so no RA. Low-stat gal was a part-elf so her dex (I think) went up by 1: a medium number became a medium number plus one as her 15 went into intelligence.</p><p></p><p>And you can just see what comes next, can't ya?</p><p></p><p>High-stat guy had a reasonable career - 7 adventures or so, nothing spectacular, never won any of our various awards, just usefully did his bit for team and party until he eventually died an adventurer's death.</p><p>Low-stat gal had an amazing career - 14 adventures and was longest-serving party member by the last of these, won a slew of awards, highly entertaining for all, and then she too died the death.</p><p></p><p>And lest you think she did better because I was primarily playing her and ignoring the high-stat guy, that wasn't the case. High-stat guy was supposed to be the primary and going in I half expected the gal to be a throwaway, but she just kept doing so bloody well while he kept screwing up. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Lanefan</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lanefan, post: 7221171, member: 29398"] Now this, I have to say, is cool stuff. By any chance do you happen to remember what the overall average point-buy cost turned out to be? Also, how did your program (if it did at all) assign point-buy values to stats below 8? And one thing that needs to be noted: point-buy values really skew high once an 18 gets rolled. Particularly if numbers less than 8 are treated like an 8 you could hypothetically have these two characters: 12-12-12-12-12-12 - average 12.0 - net overall bonus +6 - point buy cost 24 18-14-7-7-7-7 - average 10.0 - net overall bonus -2 - point buy cost 23 Roughly the same point cost...and about there all similarities end. Which means, while in large-data analysis pont-buy values is an OK comparison it might not always stand up for comparing individual characters. When I started playing 3e I rolled up two characters (the DM let us run two at a time, old-school style) - and their starting stat rolls were surprisingly close to the two sets you show here...except, change the 9 to a 7 in the first one and one of the 12s to a 14 in the second, so even more difference between them. High-stat guy was a human so no RA. Low-stat gal was a part-elf so her dex (I think) went up by 1: a medium number became a medium number plus one as her 15 went into intelligence. And you can just see what comes next, can't ya? High-stat guy had a reasonable career - 7 adventures or so, nothing spectacular, never won any of our various awards, just usefully did his bit for team and party until he eventually died an adventurer's death. Low-stat gal had an amazing career - 14 adventures and was longest-serving party member by the last of these, won a slew of awards, highly entertaining for all, and then she too died the death. And lest you think she did better because I was primarily playing her and ignoring the high-stat guy, that wasn't the case. High-stat guy was supposed to be the primary and going in I half expected the gal to be a throwaway, but she just kept doing so bloody well while he kept screwing up. :) Lanefan [/QUOTE]
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