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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 7223460" data-attributes="member: 23751">Did those two gnomes have the exact same spells know, spells memorized, same items and same college?  Were the players the same in ability?I have.Player ability is huge, though.  In my group if I had a wizard with a 12 int, a second guy had an identical wizard except for a 16 int, and a third guy had an identical wizard except for the a 20 int, I would destroy them both with combat effectiveness.  I am far better than either one of them at playing spell casters.  The guy with the 16 int would be much better than the last guy, since he's a decent player of spell casters.  The last guy gets lost with fighter abilities and constantly forgets abilities and feats.  He'd be abysmal as a caster, despite the much higher score. [MENTION=6801845]Oofta[/MENTION] put at issue different players playing the two different stat arrays.  It was never about identical PCs in all ways except for stats.  That means that class tier, class abilities, items, feats, and differing levels of player ability are all part of the equation, no matter how much [MENTION=6801845]Oofta[/MENTION] wants to make it just about stats.  All of that has to be taken into consideration in order to figure out the comparative difference in the two sets of arrays.  If all that [MENTION=6801845]Oofta[/MENTION] wants to show is that higher stats has a greater impact than lower stats, I've already acknowledged that.  It's just a minor deal when compared to all of those other things.</blockquote>

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