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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 7226072" data-attributes="member: 22779">Except, with the stat difference, Dave's awesome rolls just barely makes him an average character, while Bob's poor rolls results in him having the same HP as Dave.It gets worse with casters too.  Starting with an 18 stat and a +2 stat bonus race and you have a DC of 15 at 1st level.  For a point buy character, you don't see that until 8th level at the earliest.  Meanwhile, the high stat character has two feats on TOP of his high DC.  So, he's got War Caster, granting him advantage on Con (and thus concentration) checks, can cast more spells per round since OA's trigger a spell, and, heck, for S&G's we'll give him Spell Sniper for an extra cantrip, double range and now he ignores cover for ranged attacks.And that's not worth a level in effectiveness?</blockquote>