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Message: <blockquote data-quote="JesterOC" data-source="post: 7226704" data-attributes="member: 42841">Just coming into this debate but this was an interesting point.Very true in a limited sense. If you define barbarian as only a combat focused being. However there might be occasions that the barbarian will need to solve a puzzle of make a diplomatic check. At those times, they are actually the better choice.But lets go with the idea that for a given class there are certain attributes that if you are not above average (10-11) then you are worse.Not sure if point buy was designed to let players create ALL the concepts they want. It just ensures that they can pull off the most common configurations.Rolling does not even grant you that. Rolling allows you the chance to try to make a workable character from a chaotic beginning. It is a completely different kind of fun.Sometimes it will allow you the character you want, most of the time it won't, and sometimes it will give you a fantastically amazing powerful character.As for the infinite amounts of design space, not really.You have a few results lets allow you to arrange the rolls as you see fit (vs in order) to keep it sain.1) You get all below average rolls. You get to play a terribly infective dude. (You can do this with point buy as well if you decide to not use all of your points).2) You get all average rolls. You get to play a mostly infective dude. (You can do this with point buy as well if you decide to not use all of your points).3) You get one good roll with the rest average or below. You get to play a narrowly effective dude.4) You get two good rolls with the rest average or below. You get to play an effective dude5) You get three good rolls with the rest average or below. You get a lot of options, you can go for a very competent dude, or an effective dude with a quirky bonus perk6) You get four or more good rolls with the rest average or below. You are good to go with mostly anything you want you have rolled to have your cake and eat it too.Point buy cuts out the randomness and allows either a 3 with a really high stat or a 4 with fairly good stats.</blockquote>

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