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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 7227603" data-attributes="member: 23751">It was a people thing I think, not a setting one.&nbsp; 1e and 2e were just as &quot;empowering&quot; as 5e.&nbsp; 3e saw the influx of millennials, which probably had a lot more to do with the attempt to take away DM power than the rules did.&nbsp; I played with an old school group and we suffered no loss in empowerment at all during that edition. It doesn't matter which system you use for stats.&nbsp; The range is still 3-20 including racial bonuses.&nbsp; PCs are unable to achieve those ranges with point buy and arrays, though.A bit of system mastery is okay, even for beginners.&nbsp; Learning curves exist and are not a bad thing.&nbsp; It's okay to make mistakes and learn from them. &nbsp; Nobody has claimed that every set of stats rolled works for every character type, just like every array doesn't work for every character type.&nbsp; I can achieve character types with rolling that you never will with point buy or array, though.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 7227603, member: 23751"] It was a people thing I think, not a setting one. 1e and 2e were just as "empowering" as 5e. 3e saw the influx of millennials, which probably had a lot more to do with the attempt to take away DM power than the rules did. I played with an old school group and we suffered no loss in empowerment at all during that edition. It doesn't matter which system you use for stats. The range is still 3-20 including racial bonuses. PCs are unable to achieve those ranges with point buy and arrays, though. A bit of system mastery is okay, even for beginners. Learning curves exist and are not a bad thing. It's okay to make mistakes and learn from them. Nobody has claimed that every set of stats rolled works for every character type, just like every array doesn't work for every character type. I can achieve character types with rolling that you never will with point buy or array, though. [/QUOTE]

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